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The Business of Fashion Podcast

Rashad Robinson on Addressing Racial Inequality in Fashion

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6770 Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2020

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

This summer’s protests forced fashion to examine its longstanding issues with racial discrimination at every level. At BoF VOICES, Color Of Change president Rashad Robinson laid out how to turn the industry’s new awareness into meaningful action.

In 2020, the fashion industry reckoned with its history — and present — of racial discrimination. Companies promised to address the lack of Black voices on their creative teams and in the C-suite, as well as toxic internal cultures.But visibility is only the first step. Now is the time to “translate caring into action,” Color Of Change president Rashad Robinson said at BoF’s VOICES.The most important change the industry can make, he said, is to stop talking about race in a passive voice. It’s not that Black people are less likely to get hired in the fashion industry — rather, the fashion industry excludes Black people.Inclusivity measures such as mentorship and creating career pipelines for Black employees are inadequate, he went on to say. Too much effort is focused on “fixing” individuals, without addressing the system that created barriers to advancement in the first place.“When we talk about vulnerable communities, we spend our time trying to fix those people,” Robinson said. “When we talk about systems and structures, we spend our time trying to fix those systems and those structures.”

 

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0:00.0

Racism is not just about our individual feelings.

0:05.0

It is about an experience that people have every single day.

0:09.0

This just shows the differences in responses that communities get to not wearing a mask.

0:14.0

From your vantage point over in the U.S., what is your view of the way European countries are addressing these issues?

0:20.0

None of us are off the matrix of this.

0:24.3

And all of us have a role, once again, either upholding these systems or tearing these systems down.

0:35.5

Hi, this is Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Business of Fashion, and welcome to the BOF podcast.

0:41.5

At Voices 2020, we had the honor of having Rashad Robinson, the president of color of change,

0:47.3

one of America's leading social justice organizations, talk to us about how we can turn awareness

0:52.9

about systemic racism in the fashion industry into real action.

0:57.0

I highly recommend this talk. Here's Rashad Robinson and Voices 2020. There are common refrains we've been hearing in the wake of the murder of George Floyd.

1:15.2

It's time to take action. It's time to dismantle these structures, to take down the vestiges of slavery and colonialism that have been hundreds of years in the making.

1:26.4

But how do we turn this awareness into action?

1:29.4

To answer that, I'm pleased to welcome Rashad Robinson,

1:33.5

President of Color of Change.

1:35.9

Over to you, Rashad, in New York.

1:38.9

Thank you so much for having me.

1:40.8

It's a pleasure to be with all of you,

1:42.8

and it's a pleasure to talk about racial

1:45.2

justice, which is increasingly becoming a majoritarian issue as more and more Americans,

1:51.7

and hopefully people around the world wake up to racial injustice and commit themselves

1:57.5

to doing the work. At color of change, we were founded almost 15 years ago.

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