Hey listeners, this is Chris Gotier, I'm one of the producers of Masters of Scale.

I want to tell you about a show from our friends at Harvard Business Review that might help you better understand the world of business.

It's called HBR IdeaCast.

Each week, Harvard Business Review editors bring you the world's leading business and management experts.

But it isn't just another business podcast.

We think you will find so many connections from IdeaCast to how we hear at Masters of Scale think about scaling our business.

For instance, they often approach business challenges from contrarian points of view, telling surprising stories,

like, what can we learn from NASA about managing high-risk projects?

And what can a comedian teach us about using humor to lead a team?

Subscribe to HBR IdeaCast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

Now onto the show.

I realized in that moment that I still had a shred of hope left in me.

There was like an ember that just didn't want to go out.

That crushing feeling, seeing the opinion, there were just tears.

My job as a leader is to think about how we fight and stay courageous.

How about the loss of abortion access is going to cost the economy $105 billion.

How about the fact that it's going to impact the pipeline for women leaders to get from their internship into the C-suite?

Every time a company stays neutral or tries to be a bystander, that's going to be to their detriment.

Because their consumers care about this issue, their workforce is standing there.

It's really important for them to show leadership in order to achieve many of their own values.

That's Alexis McGill Johnson, president and CEO of Planned Parenthood Federation of America and Planned Parenthood Action Fund.

Alexis was on this show a few months ago in the midst of an initial wave of change.

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