Raphael Bob-Waksberg doesn’t forgive, but he forgets
Wild Card with Rachel Martin
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4.7 • 989 Ratings
🗓️ 11 September 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
Raphael Bob-Waksberg says working in animation lets him get away with things. He’s able to dive into heavy topics, like grief and faith, without his stories getting too dark or saccharine. It’s a skill he honed as creator of “BoJack Horseman” and he’s putting it to use again with his new series “Long Story Short” on Netflix.
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| 0:00.0 | On the TED Radio Hour podcast, psychologist and teen expert Lisa DeMore says that despite all the scary statistics about kids and their mental health, by and large, they are as funny, inventive, curious as they've ever been. |
| 0:15.7 | How teens are coping with today's stressors and how adults can better support them. Listen on the NPR app or |
| 0:22.5 | wherever you get your podcasts. Are you good at forgiveness? |
| 0:27.7 | Yes, I think I am. New card. No, I'm just kidding. I think I am. No, I hope there's more to say |
| 0:33.3 | there. You know, people say like, I forgive, but I don't forget. I'm the opposite. I don't |
| 0:37.9 | forgive, but I do forget. So that eventually turns around to forgiveness, because I've stopped |
| 0:43.1 | fixating on it. I'm Rachel Martin, and this is Wildcard, the show where cards control the |
| 0:48.6 | conversation. Each week, my guest answers questions about their life. |
| 0:54.7 | Questions pulled from a deck of cards. |
| 0:56.7 | They're allowed to skip one question and to flip one question back on me. |
| 1:00.3 | My guest this week is Raphael Bob Waxburg. |
| 1:02.8 | There's a line about grief on the show where one of the characters says to the other, |
| 1:06.9 | it isn't a straight line. |
| 1:08.8 | And I think that has been so much of what I have had to grapple |
| 1:12.6 | with through my experiences with grief. Raphael Bob Waxford makes animated TV shows that are weird, |
| 1:19.4 | and they are funny and deep, which happened to be three of my favorite qualities in any form |
| 1:24.7 | of entertainment. His first series, BoJack Horseman, was about a |
| 1:27.7 | half man, half horse, in an existential crisis. Now he is back with a brand new show called Long |
| 1:32.8 | Story Short. There are big themes, religion, and identity, and grief, but it never feels heavy. And the |
| 1:38.7 | end result is an animated story that feels very real. I am so happy to welcome Raphael Bob Waxburg to Wildcard. Hi. |
| 1:45.8 | Hi. It's great to be here. I'm so happy to have you here. What a treat. |
| 1:53.6 | First three cards. Memories. One, two, or three. I'm going to go with three. Three. Yeah. Let's skip to the good stuff. |
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