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Hey, everyone. Welcome into another edition of the WogePod here with ESPN senior writer,

Ramona Shelburne. Ramona, how are you? I'm doing good. Doing good. It's interesting.

We're about a week to trade deadline. And so I heard about that. Yeah, you know, it's like the calm

before the storm or maybe the calm before the nothing.

I don't know.

Yeah, yeah, it might be more like, it might be more like that.

But listen, this whole trade deadline is still Ramona obviously built around Ben Simmons.

And I want to start with the piece you wrote for ESPN Plus really a tremendous

behind the scenes of where we are how we've gotten there or how they've gotten there

we're not there how they've gotten there in Philadelphia with Ben Simmons and this is a story that we've all together been

reporting day by day for months. You took a step back in this piece, Ramona. I know you talked

to everybody involved. What surprised you about what you found in your reporting in this piece that

maybe the day-to-day wasn't maybe illuminating to you or to any of us?

You know, I think, Adrian, the thing that keeps jumping out at me and like the more I was

getting into what Ben Simmons life has been like

the last few months, I was just struck by like, I mean, he's driving all over Philly to find

a place to train, to find some place where he's not going to get seen by, you know, people

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