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Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

Rakim

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

Jesse Thorn

Society & Culture

4.52.6K Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2023

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

This September is Rap Month at Bullseye - we're celebrating 50 years of hip-hop with a full month rappers. First up: Rakim! He changed the rap game forever. He's one half of the groundbreaking hip-hop duo, Eric B. and Rakim. And a legendary solo rapper in his own right. On Bullseye, Rakim kicks off Rap Month by looking back at his almost 40 years in hip-hop. He gets into how he met Eric B. and his mentorship with Marley Marl. Plus, how his career has changed now that he's in his 50s.

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0:00.0

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn is a production of MaximumFund.org and is distributed by NPR.

0:21.5

It's Bullseye, I'm Jesse Thorn.

0:23.7

This month, on our show, we are going to be doing something a little bit different.

0:27.6

We are ringing in 50 years of hip-hop by interviewing all rappers all month and we're kicking things

0:35.1

off with, in my opinion, the greatest ever to do it, rock him.

0:40.8

I think there is a line between what you might call early hip-hop and modern hip-hop.

0:47.3

And that line, I say it's a line, it's basically a guy, rock him.

0:53.2

Take a listen to Five Minutes of Funk, which is a great song from 1984 by the rap group

1:00.2

Houdini.

1:10.9

The MC there is Joliel Hutchins and listen to his flow.

1:16.7

The rhymes hit with the snare drum, one, two, three, four, I mean, that is a classic style.

1:41.2

And it's that way pretty much throughout all the titular Five Minutes of Funk.

1:48.2

And again, not a bad song, actually a great song.

1:53.5

It's just back then that's kind of how most rap songs went.

1:57.6

Now, fast forward, three years.

2:01.8

This is I Ain't No Joke by Eric B. and rock him.

2:05.4

Rock him is the rapper here and it's very, very different.

2:32.0

Look, this is a rap about rapping.

2:34.5

The subject matter isn't exactly revolutionary.

2:37.8

And rock him was barely old enough to vote when he put this down.

2:46.0

But when you hear it, the complexity, the rhythm, the flow, it is both intricate and effortless.

2:55.8

The rhymes flit between the abstract and the concrete metaphor and reality in mind bending

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