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Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

John Wilson of 'How To' on the movie he wishes he'd made

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

Jesse Thorn

Society & Culture

4.52.6K Ratings

🗓️ 1 September 2023

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

John Wilson is the host and creator of the HBO series How To with John Wilson. Each episode of the show makes a simple, straightforward promise to the viewer: to teach them how to do something. Then, each episode inevitably veers off course when interviews and found footage take him in different directions. When we asked John about the thing he wishes he'd made, he picked a classic documentary: 2003's Los Angeles Plays Itself.

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0:00.0

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn is a production of MaximumFund.org and is distributed by NPR.

0:28.0

It's Bullseye, I'm Jesse Thor.

0:30.0

John Wilson carries his video camera everywhere.

0:35.0

He carries it through his apartment, as he's cleaning his cat's litter box onto the subway, pointed at a loaf of bread that happens to be hanging from the handrail.

0:46.0

In the park, he turns it on a person hanging from a tree on the street at a dog staring thoughtfully at a window.

0:56.0

He takes all that footage and he creates the show How To with John Wilson.

1:03.0

Each episode of How To makes a simple straightforward promise to the viewer to teach them how to make small talk or cook the perfect risotto, how to appreciate wine.

1:14.0

And then, each episode basically breaks that promise.

1:20.0

John, the host director and principal cameraman, inevitably veers off course.

1:26.0

He gets bogged down in his personal life. He stops to look at a big pumpkin in one episode, which was originally about splitting a check at a restaurant.

1:35.0

John went to a party where all the other attendees were referees.

1:42.0

There is nobody like John Wilson, nobody making television as strange, compelling, fascinating, beautiful, and hilarious as John Wilson.

1:52.0

So when we heard about the third and sadly final season of How To, we invited him back onto our show for a segment called I Wish I Made That.

2:02.0

It's a chance for guests to go in depth about a piece of art that's affected them so deeply.

2:09.0

Well, frankly, they're jealous they didn't make it.

2:12.0

John Wilson is a lifelong New Yorker. He lives in Queens. He was raised on Long Island.

2:18.0

When we asked him if there was something he wished he'd made, he picked a movie on Documentary, which is unsurprising.

2:26.0

But that movie is Los Angeles plays itself.

2:31.0

It's a documentary that, I mean, it's not about New York. Here's John Wilson.

2:37.0

My name is John Wilson. I make a documentary TV show called How To with John Wilson.

2:44.0

The movie I always wish that I made is called Los Angeles plays itself.

2:49.0

It's by this guy named Tom Anderson, who is also from Los Angeles.

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