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| 0:00.0 | In a surprise twist, we're going to start this episode walking through the woods. |
| 0:08.0 | This is something called the Smarts Brook Trail System in the White Mountain National Forest in New Hampshire, so federal property. |
| 0:16.7 | And we're walking on some trails that are not exactly legal. |
| 0:20.8 | The trail going up this way. Oh, yeah, yeah. |
| 0:24.0 | Pretty defined. |
| 0:25.0 | I mean, these are not the stealthiest of stealth trails. |
| 0:29.0 | And this one that we're on is, like, how many miles of trails are there here? |
| 0:33.8 | There's about 17 miles on the ground right now. |
| 0:36.6 | Our tour guide to these not entirely above board trails is Jody Chinchin. |
| 0:41.2 | District District. Jody has been a forest ranger, a trail builder, and a wildlands firefighter. |
| 0:49.2 | She manages 600 miles of mostly hiking and snowmobiling trails. |
| 0:54.4 | But these days, she's been spending a lot of time with mountain bikers. |
| 0:58.8 | And mountain bikers are obviously a biggie. |
| 1:01.8 | They do a lot of work. They have a lot of energy. |
| 1:05.0 | So. |
| 1:07.0 | Jody is, as far as I can tell, a model federal employee polite accurate and |
| 1:15.2 | circumspect. She calls these trails incidental trails user-created trails |
| 1:20.9 | non-network trails. Bureaucratic euphemisms for what they really are, |
| 1:26.0 | trails that got built on federal land without permission. |
| 1:29.0 | She estimates there are about 35 or 40 miles of them |
| 1:32.0 | just in her district of the National Forest. |
| 1:35.0 | So strictly speaking, it's not okay to just go dig a trail, but people have done it, |
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