Hey, hey, and welcome. This is The Ben Shapiro Show. So it's a Sunday. You know, a few weeks ago, I sat with my friend Andrew Clayton. We talked about many of the most important things in life. The search is a show that I do with some of my best friends in sort of the media, political, entertainment, scientific space. And we just sit for a couple of hours to talk about life. There's one part of our conversation from the search that was actually really fascinating on play for you. It's all about what it's like to raise kids. Are kids good? Are kids bad? Are they innocent? Or are they actually little devils? It's really sort of fascinating. I think you'll get a kick out of it. Some people are like kids should make their own decisions. Kids are smart. Kids are, kids are, kids are good. Kids are inherently good is one of the stupidest ideas I ever heard in my Kids are innocent, they're not good. They're not, that's not the same thing. That's right, that's right. They are innocent, but they're not good.

You have to teach people to be good.

Yeah, yeah. stupidest ideas I ever heard in my enthrall. Kids are innocent, they're not good. They're not, that's not the same thing. That's right.

That's right.

They are innocent, but they're not good. You have to teach people to be good. This is why you civilize your children. It's the wonderful, actually one of the wonderful things about them is they say all the things that you think, but you think, I hope nobody knows. Oh my God. My daughter is famous for this.

Apparently my daughter the other day she was in one of her classes.

And she raised her hand for some sort of quiz. And the teacher comes over, and my daughter says, I want to ask a question. She says, it's a quiz. I can't answer. My daughter says, so what do they pay you for? Is she sure the apple hasn't fallen far from the free? Yeah, exactly. I was like, I was like,

I was like, I don't know whether to be angry or proud of it. I mean, that's, that's really good. I mean, that's, that's, my daughter is, yeah, she's like, she's whipped smart and she's got a mouth on her. And it's a, it's a, it's a problem. It's been a problem before. Her comebacks. I think I told you the one where the older kid came to her when she was in first grade.

Yeah.

It was like... It's a problem. It's been a problem before. Her comebacks, I think I told you the one where the older kid came to her when she was

in first grade.

Yeah, it was like, we're older than you. And she goes, yeah, that just means you're going to die sooner. I was like, I was like, wow, that's an amazing comeback. You're like, this is when she was like six. like six. I'm like, that's a great comeback for like a 30 year old. I mean, like a six year old.

But yeah, I mean, like they, they are, you know, they're not good people. They're not good people, but they are, you know, they're cultivating it. Like, you can see, already the 9-year-old. You can see, she's got, like, a deep moral sense. Like, if she thinks something is bad or wrong, she gets very upset about it. And, you know, they see, I mean, this is the thing, it is, it is like a magic power if, if you're not an immoral person, you know, like, you're not, I mean, that you actually can say to them as they get older, you can say, ah, you know, don't, don't do that. And, you know, you don't have to raise your hand, you don't have to raise your voice. Right. It's just they think like, well, you know, I mean, I want, proudest moment in my life, one of the proudest moments in my life. I went said to my son, like, I had never, I never hit my kids. I never had to, you know, I could be scary, but I never like, you know. Well, first of all, rule, father does have to have the capacity to be scary. Yes, yes, absolutely. It's like the George Patton. It's from Patton, right? It's not important for them to know.

It's only important for me to know.

Yeah.

But I'm actually like angry. does have to have the capacity to be scary. Yes, absolutely. It's like the George Patton. It's from Patton, right?

It's not important for them to know.

It's only important for me to know.

Yeah.

But I'm actually like angry. All right. So I said to him like, were you ever afraid I would hit you? Because I was frightening. I could be frightening if they were doing something really stupid. And he said, no, that would have been wrong because I was so much smaller than you, and I knew you wouldn't do something wrong.

I thought, you know.

That's a great answer.

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