The Rags to Rich's American Dream.

Everybody loves to hear that story.

So one of my buddies and guys that I look up to in business,

Victor Daniel was visiting from New York.

And so I had him come by headquarters here.

And I was like, you got to tell this story

because people are all over the place.

I've been on this side of the good stick of money, you know?

And I've been on the other side.

And when you're on the downside,

when you have no money, it's hard to realize that there is hope.

So I thought your story's always been inspiring to me.

So Victor Daniel runs four multi-million-dollar businesses now

and knows a ton of stuff.

Like I keep notes on my phone, people like Warren Buffett

and Charlie Munger, and also Victor Daniel.

So this is a guy that I really look up to, just knowing stuff.

We just were recording an accelerator like about, you know,

using independent contractors.

He has 80 independent contractors running business

form around the world.

He's got real insight on using data, deep dive in data stuff.

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