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Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Rafah, Egypt & the "Day After" - with Amos Harel

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Ark Media

Society, October 7, Hamas, War, Foreign Policy, Geopolitics, Israel, News Commentary, News, Politics, Elections, Palestine, Dan Senor, Government

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2024

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Share on X: https://tinyurl.com/2prj3ea7 In recent days, we have had three persistent questions: One, how is it that – in just a matter of approximately 10 days – the IDF managed to move anywhere between 850,000 to a million Gazan Palestinians from Rafah to other areas of Gaza so Israel could conduct its operation against remaining Hamas battalions in Rafah? Weren’t we repeatedly told by the Biden administration that it was impossible? So, our first question is, how did this happen? And what does it tell us about other gaps between the Biden administration forecasts and that of Israel’s when it comes to war-fighting in Gaza? Our second question is about Egypt. Given what we have learned in recent days, why has Egypt escaped any real scrutiny or pressure over the past 7 months? Our third question is whether all the heat on the Israeli Government for a lack of a “day after” plan really about the pursuit of a “day after” plan, or is it about deflecting scrutiny from other failures? To help us answer these questions and others, we are joined by Amos Harel, who has been the military correspondent and defense analyst for Israel's Haaretz newspaper for 25 years. He is among the most well-sourced and thoughtful journalists and analysts covering Israeli security affairs inside Israel. Prior to his current position, Amos spent four years as night editor for the Haaretz Hebrew print edition, and from 1999-2005 he was the anchor on a weekly Army Radio program about defense issues. Along with frequent "Call Me Back" guest and Fauda co-creator Avi Issacharoff, Amos co-wrote a book about the Second Intifada, called "The Seventh War: How we won and why we lost the war with the Palestinians", which was published in 2004 and translated into several languages, including Arabic. Amos and Avi also co-wrote "34 Days: Israel, Hezbollah and the War in Lebanon", about the war of 2006, which was published in 2008.

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It's 1130 p.m. on Wednesday, May 22nd in New York City. It's 6.30 a.m. on their day. In recent days I have had three persistent questions. One, how is it that in just

0:27.8

a matter of approximately 10 days the IDF managed to move anywhere between 850,000 to 1 million Gazan Palestinians from

0:37.7

Raffa to other areas of Gaza so that the I.D.F. could conduct its operation against remaining Hamas battalions in Raffa.

0:46.0

Weren't we repeatedly told by the Biden administration that it was not possible?

0:52.0

Here was Secretary of State Tony Blinking less than two weeks ago.

0:56.8

Most of the population from Gaza displaced from the north and from Central Gaza has gone to

1:02.0

Rafa. There are about 1.4 million people there.

1:04.5

And we've said to Israel that we cannot,

1:06.4

will not support an operation in Rafa

1:08.6

in the absence of a credible plan to protect civilians.

1:11.3

And they still haven't delivered it.

1:13.0

And of course, Vice President Kamla Harris had seen the maps proving it could not be done.

1:20.0

Any major military operation in Rafa would be a huge mistake.

1:27.0

Let me tell you something, I have studied the maps.

1:30.0

There's nowhere for those folks to go.

1:32.0

And we're looking at about a million and a half people in Rafa who are there because they were told to go there most of them.

1:38.0

And so we've been very clear that it would be a mistake to move into Rafa with any type of military operation.

1:47.0

So today my first question is how did this happen?

1:51.0

And what does it tell us about other gaps between the

1:54.3

Biden administration's forecasts and those of Israel's when it comes to war fighting in

2:00.3

Gaza? My second question is about Egypt. Given what we have learned in recent days, why has Egypt

2:07.0

escaped any real scrutiny or pressure over the past seven months? My third question is well is all the heat on Israel's

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