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Hey ITT fam, it's me Maria Inohosa in case you forgot.

So futuro is currently on our holiday break, yeah, we shut down the entire office, we tell

people to shut it all off, right, none of us are working and so today we're going to share

an episode from our sister podcast, Latino USA, which I also anger.

So in this episode, I have a conversation with Rafael Reif, he's the president of the Massachusetts

Institute of Technology, you know, MIT.

So Reif is actually stepping down as president at the end of this month and so in this conversation,

we talk about the last decade that he served in this role, but then the conversation got

a lot deeper than that, it got really honestly surprisingly personal.

We got into Reif's upbringing in Venezuela, how his own Jewish refugee parents had to start

a new in Latin America and how this impacted his outlook on education.

And you know, Latinos and Latinas are definitely underrepresented in higher education, even

more so in so-called elite schools like MIT.

And education access can be really challenging for low-income students, especially when

you're one of the first near family to go to college.

And Reif talks about his own experience dealing with that and then he owns a president of MIT.

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