And the Testing one, two three, testing one, two one two three this is radio free Mormon on the air

Broadcasting behind enemy lines tonight's episode

Confessions of a CES director.

Tonight, we're very, very pleased to have on the show

Philip Macklemore.

Philip, how are you doing?

Doing great.

By way of introduction, and by the way, I stole this

from somebody else's website, so my apologies,

I think I'm apologizing to Mormon Matters,

because you've been on a number of different

podcasts sharing different aspects of your spiritual journey but Philip McLemore is a

former CES instructor and Institute director in the Southeast United States, mainly around the

area of Florida, who then served after that for 21 years as an LDS chaplain in the Air Force and then another

eight years as a hospice chaplain.

During this time he underwent a dramatic spiritual transformation

that was instigated and nurtured by,

let me just tell you this right now,

this is why I shouldn't steal things from other places because this doesn't make any sense here. I think there is a problem with the way it was written.

Anyway, what ended up happening was he suffered a serious injury, a physical injury, and through

this process and trying to deal with the pain resulted from this injury, he began pursuing other spiritual practices

eastern spiritual practices in the Kria yoga tradition did I

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