Testing 1,2,3 testing 1,2,3 this is Radio Free Mormon on the air broadcasting behind

enemy lines. Tonight's episode have LDS Apostles seen Jesus. In the LDS church there's a large

contingent of membership who have a strong conviction that LDS Apostles have in fact seen Jesus

Christ. If you asked me that question 30 years ago, have LDS Apostles seen Jesus I would have given

you an unqualified yes and I don't think that I am alone in this belief. Since that time however,

my feelings on the subject have changed to where not only am I not so sure that LDS Apostles have

seen Jesus I am pretty sure that they have not. It is a strange phenomenon in the church that so

many members believe that LDS Apostles have seen Jesus when in fact none of them have claimed to

see Jesus. The LDS church is known for having members who believe whatever the leaders say simply

because the leaders say it that's why there are sayings in the church such as when the leaders speak

the thinking has been done and also when the leaders speak the debate is over and you can have your

own issues with that kind of situation blind obedience to what a leader says simply because a leader

says it this however is one step further this is a situation where it's not members believing what

leaders say simply because they say it it's what members believe in spite of the fact that their

leaders don't say it I mean it is one thing to believe something just because a leader says it

is true it is another thing entirely to believe something in spite of the fact that leaders don't say

it. This episode is going to explore this question is why this phenomenon exists in the church today

and I've done a good deal of research and collected a number of data points which may help us to

understand why this situation exists. We start off with the fact that the Church of Jesus Christ of

Latter-day Saints does have 12 apostles actually 15 when you count the three apostles in the

first presidency but there is a quorum of 12 apostles in the church when a church claims to

have apostles that comes along with a lot of baggage from the New Testament which may be why

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