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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

Radical Chic | Interview: Noah Rothman

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.76.6K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2026

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

After beating Noah Rothman senseless with a stick for months in abstentia, Jonah Goldberg has finally agreed to a fair, gentlemanly cage fight here at Remnant MMA. After talking about Noah’s new book on left-wing violence (which also discusses right-wing violence), Jonah and Noah work through their disagreements on the war in Iran. Show Notes:—Noah’s book: Blood and Progress: A Century of Left-Wing Violence in America—Noah’s previous book: The Rise of the New Puritans: Fighting Back Against Progressives’ War on Fun—Commentary: “A Clockwork Blue: How the Left Has Come to Excuse Away and Embrace Political Violence”—Commentary: “The Worst Study Ever?” Buy your tickets here to see a live taping of The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg and Sarah Isgur. How to access your members-only Remnant feed. The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a nonpartisan perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including the Saturday Ruminant, audio versions of all our articles and newsletters, and Jonah’s twice-weekly G-File—⁠click here⁠. Instructions on how to set up your members-only feed can be found here, and if you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention.

0:18.0

Can you digger?

0:27.5

Greetings, dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.

0:33.4

It's very weird.

0:34.4

I feel like I've worked with Noah Rothman at some institution, but in fact, I haven't. He was a long time at commentary. Now he's at my old stomping ground National Review. I kind of feel like both intellectually and journalistically, I'm the aging gunfighter out west and he's tracking me down and he like finds campfires that are

0:56.7

still slightly smoking saying Goldberg was just here as he tries to have the final confrontation.

1:04.2

I just, in other words, I hear intellectual footsteps and he plagues me. He vexes me.

1:08.3

I left my duster and sawed off shotgun in the closet that's right so as i would be

1:12.1

you know wearing the apparel that would evoke this metaphor that you're in and the white tip

1:17.6

match that you keep in between your lips anyway for those of you don't know no rothman is a senior

1:23.3

writer with national review he's the author of unjust social justice and the unmasking of America. Unmaking

1:29.5

of America. Sorry.

1:32.8

The left would say the unmasking. He's also

1:35.4

the author of The Rise of the New Puritans,

1:37.2

which he came on here to talk about back in the day,

1:39.5

fighting back against Progressive's War on Fun.

1:42.3

His new book,

1:43.9

Blood and Progress, A Century of Left Wing

1:47.0

Violence in America, is out shortly, and it's already the number one new release and

1:53.5

radical political thought on Amazon. And with that, why don't you tell me, what's your book about?

2:00.8

Well, it's about a lot of things.

2:01.9

First of all, it's about left-wing violence in America.

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