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K. K. K. red box. Thank you for so many of you turning out. Thank you for staying, unlike the people who came in, took the food, took two mugs, and then left.

We're glad you decided to stay. I'm absolutely delighted to be joined by Emily Thornry, the Shadow Foreign Secretary, who when she leaves here has got to go straight to do a speech. So I've been told the rule is no selfies after which he's got to leave the room

immediately but we'll so we'll talk a bit about what you're going to say in your

speech later on but I wanted to start talking about you okay and your your

background and quite often in politics people talk about backstories and you know

they've got a perfect backstory and actually you're quite often not included in that.

Tell us a bit about your upbringing and what it was like.

I suppose I've had a fairly mixed background and you can interpret my background in different ways.

On the one hand I was born into a fairly privileged middle class background in Guilford.

My father was a lawyer and my mother had trained to be a teacher.

And then when I was seven and my brother was five and my other brother was three, my father left and he disappeared.

And we suddenly't have any money. And I remember that you really didn't have any money.

We didn't have any money at all.

And so it was really hard for my mom,

because she had these three little children and she was,

I don't think she was even 30 by that stage, you know?

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