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You're listening to Insights at the Edge. Today, my guest is Rachel Ricketts.

Rachel is a racial justice educator, an attorney, a changemaker, a healer, and an author.

She hosts online and in-person workshops, including her spiritual activism series, which promotes racial justice,

reconciliation, and healing. She's the author of the new book, Do Better, Spiritual Activism

for Fighting and Healing from White Supremacy. Rachel raises our awareness that we live immersed in a collective matrix of white supremacy,

where white people have the most power and privilege by the nature of being white.

And she introduces us to the daily work and the lifetime work we can each do, both inner and outer

work, to unplug from that matrix, which is so harmful. Here's a very provocative and eye-opening

conversation with Rachel Ricketts. To begin, Rachel, I just want to thank you for making the time for this

conversation. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. And I wanted to start by talking about

spiritual activism, this intersection between our spiritual journey and our journey as activists.

And I know that you teach spiritual activism workshops, and I'd love to know what that term means to you.

What does it mean to Rachel Ricketts for people to be spiritual activists?

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