This is thinking in public, a program dedicated to intelligent conversation about frontline

theological and cultural issues with the people who are shaping them.

I'm Albert Mola, your host and president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in

Louisville, Kentucky.

Glensie Lowry is the Merton P Stoles Professor of the Social Sciences and Professor of Economics at Brown University.

He earned his VA and Mathematics in Northwestern University, his PhD in Economics in the Massachusetts

Institute of Technology.

He's also served on the economics faculties

of Harvard University and Boston University.

Professor Lowry is a distinguished scholar of economics.

He's a notable public intellectual in the United States, having published more

than 200 essays in various academic outlets. He's also a proficient scholar on racial and

social policy issues. He's written several books on the topic of race and America.

I'm very much looking forward to this conversation today with Professor Glenn Lowry.

Professor Glenn Lowry, welcome to thinking in public.

Very good to be with you, Dr. Moller.

You know, there's so many things I want to talk to you about,

some of them as current as just about the headlines every day these days,

and some of them in the, say, the mid-range.

But I want to tell you that as we begin,

I'm very indebted to you for a key intellectual concept

that I use over and over again. I find it

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