I fell into a really bad depression, you know, and it's usually what happens because, you know,

with my wife at the time, she, you know, it either brings you closer together or something,

you know, something that happens like that, either brings you closer together or it splits you up

and it split us up. The divorce, our son dying, I was like really depressed and really, I guess I didn't

want to live. So I started doing a lot of controlled substances more than I should have. And I did

so much one night that I was laying down in bed after I did all this stuff. And my heart felt like I was going to jump out of my chest

and dance a jig on top of my chest. My heart should have settled down, but it didn't. And all I could

think about was the fact that Devin Emelik had had the same kind of thing happened to him. And what was his

response?

A former evangelical missionary, a devastating personal tragedy, and a journey through doubt,

loss, and relentless questioning, ending in an unexpected place.

This is the story of a man who didn't just change beliefs.

He rebuilt his entire identity in search of truth.

This episode is in memory of Shimon Devabhan Yaakov Shlema and Mirim Sarabas Yakkw Mosh. Also, Rufuah Shlema to my friend's wife, Rifka Zladda, Bas Zahavar Rukhul. And thank you to this week's sponsors, Wea Salis, Bipin, Rebdavile Lechtenstein's powerful book and Zaller Nutrition. If you haven't yet subscribed, please do. Some of our best work is coming. Here we go. Gavriel Glennie was joking right before that your first

Glennie to be on this podcast. I had Schwartz's and Friedman's first Glennie. So thank you for

being here. And there's, Thank you for having me. Sure.

There's...

You have a very eventful life and wild story.

Can you take us back to your childhood?

What was that like?

Where did you grow up?

Well, I grew up in Iowa because my parents lived there.

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