Quite right! live: Kemi Badenoch's last conference?

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🗓️ 7 October 2025

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This week, Michael and Maddie record Quite right! in front of a live audience at the Conservative Party conference in Manchester – with attendance down, the big question is whether Kemi Badenoch can survive as leader of the opposition. There is the unmistakable air of fatalism among MPs staring down electoral annihilation – but would another change in leadership cement the Tories as pathologically regicidal?

They also debate Badenoch’s bold pledge to bar candidates who won’t back leaving the European Convention on Human Rights – a ‘calculated risk’ that could redefine the party’s identity or too little too late?

Then, in the wake of the horrific Manchester synagogue attack, they turn to the rise of anti-Semitism and the crisis of policing. Are Britain’s streets really being governed by ‘two-tier justice’? And what does it say about public order – and public confidence – that Jewish Britons are being told to stay indoors for their own safety?

Finally, they dissect the Church of England’s choice of Sarah Mullally as the new Archbishop of Canterbury. Is she an inspired appointment, or proof that the Church has become, as Michael puts it, ‘another bureaucratic manifestation of generalised niceness’?

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1:06.6	Hello and welcome to this live episode from the Conservative Party Conference.
1:12.1	We're here in Manchester and Maddie and I are going to be taking the temperature of the party conference,
1:18.4	but also reflecting because we're in Manchester on the horrific terrorist attack last week.
1:23.9	And we'll also be considering what the future holds for the new Archbishop of Canterbury as well.
1:34.9	Maddie was observing Kemmé's big speech. She kick-started the conference by tackling head-on the question of what the Conservatives have got wrong in the past, and also the feature and the European Convention on Human Rights,
1:47.2	what the Conservatives' position should be on that.
1:49.3	Maddie, how do you think Kemi dealt with a conference
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