Quite right!: Labour’s deputy drama, Macron’s mess & was Thatcher autistic?
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🗓️ 9 September 2025
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
Michael Gove and Madeline Grant return with another episode of Quite right!, The Spectator’s new podcast promising sanity and common sense in an increasingly unhinged world.
This week, they dissect Keir Starmer’s brutal reshuffle – from the ‘volcanic ejection’ of Angela Rayner to the rise of Shabana Mahmood, the ‘uncompromising toughie’ now in charge of the Home Office. What do these moves reveal about the Labour party’s deepest fears on crime and migration?
Across the Channel, Emmanuel Macron faces yet another political crisis, as France lurches towards its fifth prime minister in two years. Is Britain now drifting into its own pre-revolutionary mood – and becoming ‘France 2.0’?
And finally, a new biography of Margaret Thatcher makes the startling claim that she was autistic. Michael and Madeline ask: why must every figure from history be retroactively diagnosed as ‘neurodiverse’?
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, I'm Michael Gove. |
| 0:03.0 | And I'm Madeleine Grant. |
| 0:04.4 | Apologies to interrupt the smooth running of this fantastic Spectator podcast, but we want to tell you about our new podcast, quite right, which is out now. |
| 0:12.9 | Each week we unpacked the stories that piqued our interest, amused us, or drove us to exasperation. |
| 0:18.8 | It's a place for politics, culture and philosophy, |
| 0:22.2 | with perspectives that you won't get anywhere else. |
| 0:24.9 | Search quite right, |
| 0:26.0 | wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:27.8 | Find the full episode in Vision |
| 0:29.4 | on our YouTube channel, Spectator TV. |
| 0:32.0 | That's quite right. |
| 0:33.2 | From The Spectator, out now. |
| 0:57.6 | Hello and welcome to Quite Right, the new podcast from The Spectator, which searches for sanity and common sense in a world that increasingly seems devoid of both. |
| 0:58.9 | I'm Michael Gove. |
| 0:59.9 | And I'm Madeline Grant. |
| 1:06.4 | Each week, Michael and I will be going through some of the stories that most piqued our interest, amusement, and often our exasperation. |
| 1:12.3 | And this week, with Angela Raina Out and Shabana Mahmood up, we'll be looking at the government reshuffle, |
| 1:17.8 | not just in terms of politics and policy, but also what it reveals about the Labour Party, the country, |
| 1:20.8 | and who we see as working-class heroes. And across the channel, Emmanuel Macron is facing another political crisis, |
| 1:25.4 | with France on the brink of seeing its fifth prime minister |
| 1:28.1 | in two years. But is France more politically chaotic than Britain, or is this just the new normal? |
| 1:33.5 | And also, we'll be looking at a new biography of Margaret Thatcher, which claims she was autistic. |
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