Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Job. And I go by the name, Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle.

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you get your podcast. Hey, Brack. Okay, this is Brack Koston. I've known him. Do you know how long we've known each other, Breck?

It's probably been close to 20 years at this point. No more because I was like 30, 31, maybe even younger.

Anyway, so easily, no, I think it's 25.

Oh, man.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm never, I'm never good with time and years.

Yeah, I think I was like in my early 30s.

All right, so this is Brett Koston.

I've known him for years because a group of friends of mine

had found this freedom course in L.A. and it was transformative for them. And I liked the name

Freedom. And I was like at a crossroads with a relationship. Yeah, Breck, I think it was earlier. It was like in my 20s.

Yeah, it must have been. And I was, so that was like a long time ago, like maybe

almost 30 years ago. And, um, you could probably go back and look at the dates. I probably still

have my freedom notebook upstairs. And I went to this like three day immersive experience

at Brack and, uh, learned a language. A lot of people use now that I actually know is because of

me, which I'll get into. And Breck's sort of like oblivious to all that

like commercial stuff in ways, which I like, because like he never knows how many times I use his

words, but I do always give him credit. But like other people do also. So Breck is a life coach

slash non-traditional therapist, but not like a doctor.

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