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listening. Terms apply. Hi, this is Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist,

and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Unger. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, and speaker.

And this is Sarah Hart Unger. I'm a mother of three, a practicing physician, and blogger on the side.

We are two working parents who love our careers and our families. Welcome to Best of Both Worlds.

Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, and time for fun. From figuring out child care to mapping out long-term career goals, we want you to get the most out of life.

Welcome to Best of Both Worlds. This is Laura. This is episode 267 airing in mid-September of

2022. We are going to be talking about quiet quitting and different

ways of working in general. We will also be talking about fall fun, many alliterations, as Sarah

just pointed out to be, though we seem to like repeating consonants in things. So, Sarah,

as we're talking about how people work, you recently shared the news,

both on this podcast and on your blog, about changing your work situation. So real quick,

for anyone who is just coming to us now, can you sort of give a quick recap of what's gone on?

Yeah. Well, there have been a number of iterations over the years. I, out of residence or out of

fellowship, took a full-time clinical job.

Then a few years later, I think I dialed down to 80%. But then I ended up adding a leadership role

in graduate medical education and kind of found that that more knowledge work type of role

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