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The Michael Steele Podcast

Quick Take: The Unsung Heroes

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2023

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

This is an excerpt from the full episode "We've Been Here Before– America's Fight Against Fascism: With Rachel Maddow."

Michael speaks with Rachel Maddow about her new book, "Prequel: An American Fight Against Fascism." The pair discuss how modern-day efforts to undermine democracy have a prequel dating back to before and during World War II when an ultra-right authoritarian movement tried to steer our nation toward an alliance with the Nazis. Rachel describes the unsung heroes of that period– those who made sure we saved ourselves from ourselves.

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0:00.0

Hey Michael Steele podcast listeners, Michael Steele here with another quick take from the Michael Steele

0:13.0

podcast check out what's going on right now.

0:16.0

Welcome back everybody to the Michael Steele

0:19.5

podcast. I'm Michael Steele and that's that's Rachel Maddow and the book and

0:29.2

which is a humdinger as my dad used to say a lot when I was young and I don't know why but it always sort of got my attention.

0:38.0

Prequel, an American fight against fascism.

0:42.0

It is an amazing and it details chronicles the the emergence of

0:45.4

an amazing book and it details chronicles

0:50.1

the the emergence of fascism in the late 30s and the 40s.

0:56.5

But now I want to talk about the heroes,

0:58.4

because you go through and you lay out the cast of characters

1:01.4

and we've talked about a number of them, including as before we went to break Henry Ford of, yeah, that Ford.

1:10.0

Talk to us about the folks who you really titled the book after.

1:17.0

The good guys, people who fought.

1:19.0

Those Americans who were fighting against this rise of fascism.

1:24.0

One of the interesting things to me about the whole sort of memory holding of this story.

1:31.0

The fact that we don't remember much of it is that there are some of the bad guys whose names have survived Charles Coghlin Henry Forge in Charles Lindbergh, no, okay. There is maybe only one of the good guys whose name has survived. Everybody else totally lost to history. Some of them, the people who are the biggest heroes in this fight in the late 30s and early 40s, they in some way saved the country, did incredible work and yet their work wasn't even recognized in their own lifetimes.

2:02.8

There wasn't even mentioned in their own obituaries when they finally moved on.

2:06.2

But there's one who is a name that maybe some people listening to us right now might know.

2:11.0

And it is Eric Severide that may mean anything.

2:14.5

Yeah, yeah so the famous CBS I grew up with Eric.

2:19.5

Eric Severide was a huge deal in 20th century American broadcasting. He was a big very big deal on

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