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The Michael Steele Podcast

Protecting What Is Human in Artificial Intelligence: With Dr. Joy Buolamwini

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2023

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Michael speaks with MIT researcher Dr. Joy Buolamwini about her book, "Unmasking AI: My Mission to Protect What Is Human in a World of Machines." The pair discuss who holds the power within AI and tech and how AI creates algorithmic biases, the impact of AI in elections, the consequences of facial identification and the ousting of OpenAI CEO Sam Altman.

Check out the book here: https://www.amazon.com/Unmasking-AI-Mission-Protect-Machines/dp/0593241835

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0:00.0

Hey folks, welcome to the Michael Still podcast. We've got a great conversation set up for today because as you've heard me speak over the past year, I have a real concern about AI, the future of AI, where it's going, what it is doing, and potentially what it could mean for our culture, our politics, our economy.

0:22.0

We've got a smart one in the house to talk about it. I'm going to be joined today by Dr. Joy Boloini. She is the founder of the Algarhythmic Justice League, some mouthful, a groundbreaking MIT researcher model artist and the author of the new book,

0:39.4

Unmasking AI, My Mission to Protect What is human in a world of machines. She it lends her expertise to

0:47.4

congressional hearings and government agencies trying to get them up the speed. We've watched our members of Congress folks, right, during hearings on Facebook. Well, this is way beyond Facebook. And she's there in the room trying to educate and inform congressional and state and governmental

1:04.8

agencies who are seeking to enact equitable and accountable AI policy.

1:09.9

As she is, as they like to say the poet of code as she creates art to illuminate the impact of AI in society.

1:19.0

So stick around for my conversation with Dr Joy Bolandweeny

1:23.0

about AI because it'll begin

1:26.3

right after this break. Folks,

1:35.0

welcome to the Michael Steele podcast.

1:39.0

Yes, I know you're having a tripped a fan moment,

1:42.0

you're still kind of recovering from all that turkey and so am I.

1:47.3

It's all good, but we have a way, we have a way to get that adrenaline going today with our conversation.

1:55.0

Dr Joy, I'm so excited to welcome me

1:57.5

to the Michael Steele podcast.

1:59.9

Thank you so much for having me.

2:01.8

Yeah, yeah. And so I understand like you got your PhD. Yeah, and so I understand like you got this whole,

2:04.8

you kind of like this doctor's thing going.

2:07.1

So you've got your PhD, I assume from MIT, was that is that was I did no you know I'm going to a PhD from

2:17.2

MIT then you got another so your doctor doctor as well right you got another doctor as well, right? You got another doctor that popped up on the radar screen.

2:28.0

Yeah, so I got an honorary doctorate about a month after I earned my PhD.

2:35.5

And so it was a bit funny because I had threatened

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