Quick Take: Reframing Our Nation's History

The Michael Steele Podcast

Two Squared Media

Politics, News, History, Government

4.8 • 3.3K Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2023

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Michael Steele speaks with Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Nikole Hannah-Jones about The 1619 Project, what motivated her to write it, its purpose and its pushback. The pair also discuss the notion of patriotism, how politicians like Trump and DeSantis have responded to her work, and how being honest about our country's history can help it live up to its highest ideals.

This is an excerpt from the episode "Understanding 1619 Means Understanding Our Country: With Nikole Hannah-Jones."

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0:00.0	Hey, Michael Steel Podcast listeners, Michael Steel here with another quick take from the
0:12.5	Michael Steel Podcast.
0:14.3	Check out what's going on right now.
0:17.0	Welcome back to the Michael Steel Podcast.
0:18.5	I'm Michael Steel and we are having, I think, for me, I don't know about the Reds Y'all,
0:23.2	but for me, a very, very engaging conversation with Nicole Hannah Jones and her upcoming
0:31.3	Hulu Special six-part docu series, the 1619 project.
0:36.9	So you had in your work in writing, you talk about being in high school, Waterloo, Ohio
0:48.6	and Iowa.
0:55.6	One of those states over there.
0:59.6	No, no, no, I knew it was Iowa.
1:02.6	I don't know why Ohio, whatever that was coming out, came out.
1:06.7	But talking about that one semester elective called the African American Experience, tell
1:13.0	us what that experience was for you and what it opened up inside of you.
1:18.4	Especially for the first time.
1:20.4	Yes.
1:21.4	So my high school, I was, even though I grew up in Iowa, there were still enough black folks
1:27.3	there to segregate us.
1:31.8	I was a...
1:32.8	So now Y'all couldn't go to the Tasty Freeze and say, that's really what it is.
1:39.3	Right.
1:40.3	I was part of a busing program and so I went to a white high school in a white part of town
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