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Hey Michael Steel Podcast listeners, Michael Steel here with another quick take from the

Michael Steel Podcast. Check out what's going on right now. I'm at this point in this

relationship. I can refer to him as dear friend. Brothers don't typically go there that early.

It takes some time, maybe some co-vacier and we got there quick.

Come on, we traveled internationally together. Our spouses are friends.

Yes, yes, this is all good. Jonathan K. Bart, he is the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist.

Member of the Washington Post editorial board, an opinion writer focusing on the intersection

of social and cultural issues and politics. Host of a great podcast, the K-POP podcast.

He's also an MSNBC contributor where we are colleagues together. He serves as a substitute

anchor and has served as a guest host on midday in WNYC on New York Public Radio. He was

the deputy editorial page editor of the New York Daily News from 2002 and 2004. That's

how it all began for you. It's in a Jonathan. That's got to go even further back because I'm old.

You are. You are a young looking old black man. You know what they say? BDC. Yeah, it does

it right? I get that all the time. How do you think I am? You're probably about 45, baby.

Come on home with me. I'm not 45. I have no other way to put this. So you know me. I'm just

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