So I've been saying a lot of things talking of the people making commentary.

The ones I've noticed that have been making the commentary are wealthy black people.

Making the commentary about we should not be bright and we should not be

looting, we should not be tearing up our own communities.

And then there's been an argument of the other side of we should be hitting them in the pocket.

We should be focusing on the blackout days where we don't spend money.

But I feel like we should do both.

Well the voice you just heard is my guest on this podcast today.

And I have been from the moment I watched her clip during the protests of the killing of George Floyd.

I was struck by her, I went back, I grabbed as much information as I could about her, I tweeted about her, I tweeted out her clip.

She is none other than Kimberly Jones, former bookseller and now the host of the Atlanta chapter of the popular well-read Black Girl Book Club, as well as the infamous viral sensation, the YA Truth or Dare author-plant panel at the Decatur Book Festival.

She has worked in film and television with trailblazing figures such as Tyler Perry, my love Whitney Houston, my love, A-Ball and MJG.

Are you just doing a girl? Currently, in addition, she is a director of feature films and cutting-edge diverse web series.

She also regularly lectures on working and succeeding in the Atlanta film market, which is I know a tall order having done little work when I was at BET in that market.

She is known for her work of writing novels such as, and we're going to get into this, I'm not dying with you tonight, co-authored alongside Gilly Siegel, which was a finalist for the NAACP Image Award.

Kimberly, it is an extreme pleasure and of all the guests I've had on this year, you're the one I wanted to talk to the most because you, I don't know if you really fully appreciate the image of the film.

The impact of your words, my son and I have had this ongoing discussion about the structure of this country.

He and I get into some really heated debates. He makes Bernie Sanders look like Ronald Reagan.

He is not progressive in the political sense. He is progressive in the human sense. For him, it's not the politics. He doesn't want to deal with the politics.

He thinks the politics is all bullshit and he's right. But we get into these debates about the structure, the systems, the infrastructure of this country.

And after I saw your clip, two things happened. One, I started to cry. And two, I sent him a text and said, I now get it. I get it. I get what you've been telling me for the past two years.

It was powerful. It was, I think, a seminal moment. I think among all the things that have happened, it changed a lot of attitudes and opened up a lot of eyes.

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