Quick Take: Bad Systems or Bad People?

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.8 • 3.1K Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2022

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Michael speaks with Brian Klaas about his new book, "CORRUPTIBLE: Who Gets Power & How it Changes Us." The pair discuss the psychology behind why we choose the leaders we choose, how power attracts the wrong type of people and why it's relevant to our current political system.

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0:38.5	Hey Michael Steel Podcast listeners, Michael Steel here with another quick take from the
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0:47.0	Welcome back everybody, Michael Steel here.
0:49.5	Great conversation with the author of the new book Corruptible, Who Gets Power and
0:55.5	How It Changes Us, none other than Brian Claus.
0:58.6	You can follow him on Twitter at BrianClos.
1:01.1	That's K-L-A-A-S.
1:04.2	And so Brian, I wanted to get into, I got to pull it up real fast because I loved this
1:12.6	part of the book.
1:15.4	It's the chapter six, bad systems or bad people.
1:20.0	And you start off with the great question.
1:22.0	It was the best way you could tease the opening here.
1:24.8	You go, what can you learn about humanity by watching how people behave while sipping
1:29.8	coffee at Starbucks?
1:31.6	In fact, it turns out quite a bit.
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