Hello and welcome to Chasing Excellence.

We show about living a life of better health

and increased fulfillment.

On Tuesdays, we drop full episodes

where we answer your questions

and dive deep on what it means to chase what truly matters.

On Fridays, we do a quick set

where we either dig through the show's archive

for little bits of wisdom, worth resurfacing

or we grab a snippet from another podcast we've been on

that we wanted to share this week we've got the latter.

With a clip from a longer convo

that Ben had recently with James Greer

of the Behind the Shield podcast.

Thank you to James for letting us share this little bit.

If you want more from James from his show

check out behind the shield

wherever you are listening to this.

Let's get into the clip.

For the last two years,

we went through this global pandemic

and I optimistically was thinking, well fantastic.

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