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Hello and welcome to Quick Fix, how-to's show after the show for Slate Plus members.

In today's main episode, our listener Jen wanted to know how to help raise her son to be confident in himself

while also being a good community member.

And that conversation is incomplete without talking about race and identity.

So to that end, here's more of my conversation with Jen and our expert Ashanti Branch,

founder of the Ever Forward Club.

Another aspect of this for Jen is like, you're raising a white kid.

And the question is like, how do you be proud of who you are, but also respectful and

uplifting of others? And like, I'm curious, Jen, how do you be proud of who you are, but also respectful and uplifting of others?

And, like, I'm curious, Jen, what have your conversations around this been and what are your concerns around this?

And then I'd love to hear from Ashanti, like, what you know about writing the line, especially for boys between, like, having confidence in who you are, but also, like, knowing how to have care and respect for people that have different

identities.

So we are fortunate enough to live in Hawaii, and he has grown up most of his life here in

Hawaii where white people are not a majority, fortunately, and there is a big range of people

and colors and races, and it's much more acknowledged here

than any other place that I've lived.

But interestingly, when he was about, I think he was about five years old, we were watching

TV and it's called the Mary Monarch Festival and it's a celebration of Hula and we're looking

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