How To Harness Your Anger
How To! with Mike Pesca
Peach Fish Projects
4.3 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 14 October 2025
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
Contemporary women are primal-screaming and hitting rage rooms, but are these really the solutions to our personal and political anger? On this episode of How To!, Courtney Martin talks with Soraya Chemaly, journalist and author of Rage Becomes Her: The Power of Women's Anger, about her own recent upsurge of anger. Soraya explains how to identify, understand, and harness what's bottled up inside you—and use it for change.
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| 0:31.6 | Okay, babe. Friday night, 904 p.m. It's been a long week. I've got a question for you. |
| 0:39.1 | Yes. |
| 0:40.6 | What do you think about my relationship to anger? |
| 0:44.5 | I would say your relationship to anger is seasonal. |
| 0:52.4 | What does that mean? |
| 0:54.6 | Just like certain seasons are kind of like chapters of life. |
| 1:01.8 | I think I enjoy at least when it's directed at me. |
| 1:07.2 | Any surprises here? |
| 1:10.0 | No. |
| 1:11.0 | Okay. |
| 1:12.3 | Do you think there's a relationship between personal and political anger? |
| 1:16.9 | Oh, sure. |
| 1:18.2 | I think we probably take, like, political frustration, anger, and we project it onto people we love. |
| 1:28.7 | This is how to. I'm Courtney Martin. I think it's safe to say this year has been my toughest ever. |
| 1:38.0 | My dad has been living with dementia for a while now, but its impact on him has reached |
| 1:42.3 | acute and cruel new depths. My husband John, who you just |
| 1:46.9 | heard, and I uprooted our family from a community we loved in order to move in with my parents |
| 1:52.0 | and take care of my dad. And this totally destabilizing chapter in my life has been unfolding |
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