Hi everyone, I'm Susie Weiss, and I've noticed there's just simply not enough podcasts in the world. So I'm launching my own. Let's go. Let's go, baby. Second Thought is a weekly show about pop culture. The stuff everyone's been binging, arguing about, obsessing over. Here's the thing about heated rivalry. I mean, even the most devoted swifties, I think we can agree, not our best work. We'll be hosting thoughtful conversations with culture's most important figures. Talk about genius.

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Coming to headphones near you on can agree not our best work. We'll be hosting thoughtful conversations with culture's most important figures.

Talk about genius.

Talk about generational talent.

Coming to headphones near you on April 17th with a first guest you won't want to miss.

Available wherever you get your podcasts.

Hello and welcome to Quick Fix.

It's a bonus episode of how to exclusively for you, the Slate Plus member. I'm Carville Wallace, and on today's edition, my lovely co-host Courtney Martin and I are going to do something that you don't hear us do a lot on the show, which is have a conversation with one another. Yeah, let's try it. You think we're capable?

We'll find out.

So even if you're a casual listener to the show, you know that me and Courtney are like a pro wrestling team on some levels.

Like we take turns when one of us is in the ring hitting someone with a folding chair,

which is our metaphor for eliciting helpful advice from an expert.

The other co-hosts is back in the corner, slapping themselves and putting Vaseline on and

getting ready to come flying off the top rope.

Wow, wow, wow, Carmel, wow.

You know, I didn't write this wrestling metaphor.

I'm just going with it.

But to continue this metaphor.

The only thing I really identified with that entire string of words was putting Vaseline

somewhere.

Everything else.

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