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Austin Cook. Hi, Pastor Joel. You've mentioned before that you went to DBU. Do you have

thoughts or concerns regarding that institution? What do you think about the current state

of Christian higher education? Good question. Thanks, Austin. I have no thoughts about DBU. None

whatsoever. I attended the school. I have a degree from the school.

I did not live on campus. I never went to chapel. I got a pass for that, so I wasn't just skipping

out, but I had permission not to go. I never went to a single chapel with the school. I never went to

any of the school events. I had no

experience in the campus life whatsoever. I showed up for my classes. I took my classes. I passed

my classes, most of them, except I failed art. And I was like, talk to my art teacher. And I was like,

this is insane. This is a, this is a, you know, a throwaway class, right? You're supposed to just pass

people. And she said, I know that, Joel. You are the first student in about 20 years of my art

class who's ever failed. So I, you know, I take that as a point of pride. I think that's pretty

impressive. I am the only student at DBU who failed art class. So I had to end up taking it again and pass.

But all that being said, my point is I don't really know much about the school.

I really don't.

And the classes that I took, I didn't take a bunch of Bible classes.

I took a few, but most of the classes that I took were business related.

So I can't speak about DBU,

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