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Joel, is my young and faithful pastor in sin while praying with his hat on in front of the whole

congregate? Yep. My goodness. Yeah. Uh yeah uh-huh yep he's in sin and to be fair

he's probably ignorant you know um but yeah that's yeah he's he's in sin um i mean there's a debate

to be had i don't know if it's a great debate but i think there's a debate to be had. I don't know if it's a great debate, but I think there's a debate to be had in terms of,

you know, praying in personal private practices of piety, right?

Like fasting, scripture, reading, prayer, at the personal private level in your daily spiritual disciplines that would be one thing

and even in that setting I would say go ahead and take your hat off but if we're talking

if we're talking Lord's Day gathered worship where the word is being preached the sacrament is being administered the lord's

supper and baptism and it's you know it's the the ordinary means of grace publicly preaching the

word publicly praying the word praying i'm assuming that's the prayer you're referring to in the

lord's day gathering publicly preaching the word publicly praying gathering, publicly preaching the word, publicly praying

the word, publicly singing the word to God and also addressing one another per Ephesians

and Colossians and hymns and spiritual songs. So publicly singing the word and then the fourth

of the ordinary means of grace publicly seeing, not singing, but seeing, S-E-E-I-N-G, seeing the word in the only two

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