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Zero To Travel Podcast

Queer Travel in the United States: Unexpected Small Towns and the Importance of Inclusive Spaces with Chase Vondran

Zero To Travel Podcast

Jason Moore

Society & Culture, Business, Entrepreneurship, Places & Travel

4.6 • 866 Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

What does queer travel in the US look like beyond the big cities? And what can all travelers learn from the LGBTQ+ travel experience?  Chase Vondran is a full-time travel creator and writer based in Chicago who helps transgender and gender-diverse travelers explore safely while advocating for greater inclusion in the travel industry. After an eight-year nomadic journey spanning 20+ countries, they now focus their work on queer travel, small queer towns, and inclusive travel guides.  In this episode, co-host Dianni Hall sits down with Chase to talk about queer travel in the U.S., exploring small queer towns and gayberhoods, and understanding the realities and joys of traveling as a trans person.  This episode offers a rare glimpse into queer communities thriving outside of major cities and highlights unexpected destinations where queer people not only exist but also flourish. Chase shares personal stories from their travels as a trans person, the differences in how the world treats them before and after transition, and what travelers should consider when seeking inclusive spaces. You’ll discover resources, tips for finding queer communities, and the emotional power of feeling seen. Whether you’re a queer traveler, an ally, or curious about inclusive travel, this conversation expands how we think about travel, identity, and belonging.  How has travel helped you better understand experiences different from your own? I'd love to hear your thoughts, and I hope you’ll share by sending me an audio message.  Zero To Travel co-host Dianni Hall is a queer, second-generation Latina, solo budget backpacker, and host of the While She’s Away podcast. Learn more about her work here.  Tune In To Learn:  How travel gave Chase space to explore queerness and identity away from home  What it feels like to find queer community for the first time while traveling  Why places like Puerto Vallarta have become historic hubs for queer travelers  How the absence of visible queer community can change a travel experience  How queer history, artist communities, and other factors have helped shape small inclusive towns across the U.S.  Why destinations like Saugatuck, Michigan and Eureka Springs, Arkansas defy expectations  How Chase’s travel experiences shifted after coming out as trans and   What safety, visibility, and respect look like when traveling as a trans person and how it differs from traveling as a woman  Why small, community-driven queer spaces matter just as much as big cities  How to find queer community anywhere using apps, events, and local businesses  And so much more  Resources:  Sign up for our FREE newsletter  Dianni on Instagram  Chase on Instagram  Everywhere Is Queer  Quouch  Want More?  Choosing a One-Way Ticket Over a Master’s Degree + Lessons From 6 Years of Evolving Travel with Dianni Hall  Top 7 Cities for LGBTQ+ Travelers and Finding Your People Around the World with LGBTQ+ Travel Expert Alicia Valenski  LGBTQ+ Travel and Making A Difference with Ravi Roth  Thanks To Our Sponsors  Planet Visionaries - Listen to the podcast on Apple and Spotify  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And going back to kind of how the invisibility factor of being a trans traveler, not having

0:08.7

the representation, even though we very much so want to travel, we are very much so existing.

0:14.5

There are 2.8 million trans people in the U.S. and a lot of us want to travel.

0:19.4

A lot of us, I think, are like me where we're

0:23.1

transitioning later in life. We have decades and decades of great travel experiences and now

0:29.8

our experiences and our travel needs have changed and those resources are not available to us.

0:35.5

And I think talking to my trans friends and realizing kind of the horror

0:40.2

stories that they've experienced in bathrooms and the fears that they're experiencing, there's a lot

0:46.1

of challenging things. And it's hard to find information. And I think at first I'm like, is this

0:52.1

too niche? But it's not niche.

0:54.6

It's not too niche.

0:56.0

And that is today's guest, Chase Vondren, talking about exploring small queer towns and

1:02.5

gayberhoods around the U.S.

1:04.9

I know you wouldn't think you'd find thriving queer communities in many rural parts of the country, but Chase has,

1:15.0

and we are lucky enough that they shared all about them with us today.

1:20.8

Chase is a full-time travel creator and writer who helps transgender and gender diverse

1:26.6

travelers explore safely while advocating for

1:29.9

greater inclusion in the travel industry. They spent eight years traveling the world as a nomad and

1:35.5

are now based in Chicago, but of course continue to travel and share content focusing on queer

1:41.9

and trans travel. As a fellow queer traveler myself, this topic is

1:47.3

so meaningful to me for so many ways, but especially because more visibility of queer

1:52.9

travel is so, so vital. I was so surprised by some of the hidden gems Chase shared today,

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