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The Knife: A True Crime Podcast

Queen of the Con: Johnathan Walton’s Story

The Knife: A True Crime Podcast

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True Crime

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

This week we speak with Johnathan Walton, creator of Queen of the Con and author of Anatomy of a Con Artist. Johnathan shares how he met “Mair Smyth,” grew to love her as a sister, and then was brutally betrayed when she conned him out of $100,000. Johnathan has since spoken with hundreds of other victims and built a handbook to expose the tricks con artists use to destroy lives.  

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Anatomy of a Con Artist: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/745592/anatomy-of-a-con-artist-by-johnathan-walton/ 

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0:00.0

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Hello.

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Use code summer 25 at checkout.

0:44.9

Goodbye.

0:46.3

This story contains adult content and language.

0:48.9

Listener discretion is advised.

0:52.4

The con artist's job is to get you to love them or love the thing they're creating.

0:57.6

Because once you're making decisions on that love, you're not thinking straight.

1:01.0

You're going to get Knife. I'm Pasha Eaton.

1:18.8

I'm Hannah Smith. So we had a conversation this week that was so compelling, we decided to release it without as much editing as we normally do.

1:27.4

It's with Jonathan Walton, who talks about con artists in a way that you might not have heard before.

1:32.3

I certainly hadn't.

1:33.8

His perspective is personal.

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