Hey guys, welcome to the Mental Makeover podcast. I'm Lauren Curtis. You've probably heard the phrase, the grass is always greener on the other side, but I believe it's greener where you water it. This podcast is here to provide you with meaningful advice from myself and others in order to give your little patch of grass the best chance to grow and flourish.

Hello, thanks for tuning in. Today I'm interviewing Carmen, aka the Skin Fairy. She has been

treating my skin for the past four or five years now, which is kind of crazy to think.

Carmen has been in the industry for 14 years.

She is an authority in skin in my eyes and in many of your eyes too because I had so many

requests to feature her on the podcast.

So I hope you guys enjoy the interview.

So Carmen and I came into contact about four and a half years ago now. I was getting my

brows done by someone called Alex and she, how did you know Alex? My friend who does my eyebrows

is friends with Alex. Perth is small place. Yeah, Perth is small. Everyone's connected somehow and she was

saying what actually was it? Carmen wanted oh i was like i need to do

lauren's skin like is lauren's is lauren seeing anyone yeah and i had mentioned it to my brow

lady and so she said oh my best friend does her and i was like what and at this point yeah i was

like a makeup girl i mean i still am i don. I don't know. The next thing about skincare.

So I didn't have a skincare routine.

I didn't like have certain products. I don't think I'd ever had a facial at that point. Which actually has really made you a great client because you always have always listened to me. I'm a nerd. We've been, yes. You're very A type personality. You need to know ingredients. how's it going to want, but you're very respectful. And you've always been such a good client. Well, because I trust you and I know that you know a million times. Like, why would I go to if I didn't trust what you had to say? But even your first appointment, I remember. Do you? Yeah. You're asking a lot of questions. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but but you i think it's very nervous actually when

you go see a therapist or anyone for that matter for the first time because you have to build

this relationship and it's actually all based around trust yes so you don't know me i don't know you

are you going to listen to my professional opinion are you going to take on board X, Y, Z? So it has to start

really with baby steps because for me, it's also, even now, you have to build that trust

with someone, that rapport. And I think I always found it very intimidating going into any kind

of like salon or beauty thing because I still, I still I've never even when I like go into

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