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If you could design a new physical fitness test for the special operations community,

what unconventional exercise would you include and why?

See, there's so many.

Just that the standard APFT blows, because it doesn't really measure any kind of fitness, at least combat fitness.

One of the things, you know, like a two- two mile run i think it's freaking horrid

i would put in a 400 a run bro you know freaking run right because a two mile run is going to measure

people who are rails are going to measure a lot better than somebody who's freaking 225

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