Q&A with Jackie Hill Perry and Laurence Koo, #576
Christian Sexuality - Java with Juli
Authentic Intimacy®
4.8 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 21 July 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Jackie Hill Perry and Laurence Koo tackle some of the most pressing questions surrounding faith, sexuality, and discipleship. No small talk here—just honest answers about the reality of same-sex attraction, the cost of following Jesus, and the beauty of surrender.
Whether you're a pastor, parent, friend, or someone personally navigating LGBT questions, this is a must-hear conversation.
Guests: Jackie Hill Perry & Laurence Koo
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| 0:00.0 | I think when you identify yourself by your affections and by your passions and by your desires, |
| 0:09.5 | you end up giving them more power over your identity than they deserve. |
| 0:14.5 | So when you even ask the question is being gay wrong, I think that's what I hear is identity, rather than asking the question |
| 0:23.1 | is being tempted by homosexuality. Like, what does it mean to be tempted by homosexuality? |
| 0:31.9 | Hi, friend. Thanks so much for joining me for another episode of Java with Julie. And if you have been with us the last few weeks, then you know we are in a series |
| 0:41.7 | really looking at what it looks like to surrender our sexuality to the Lordship of Jesus. |
| 0:47.4 | Today we're going to talk very practically and specifically about what that journey looks like. |
| 0:52.4 | If you are fighting a temptation that won't go away, |
| 0:56.1 | particularly around maybe same-sex attraction or just unwanted sexual desires. So to help me |
| 1:03.2 | unpack this topic, I've invited author and speaker Jackie Hill Perry and my friend Lawrence Koo. |
| 1:10.0 | Now, Jackie Hill Perry is a well-known author and teacher. |
| 1:13.7 | Lawrence is actually a board member of Authentic Inimacy. |
| 1:17.1 | He works with the Navigators Organization, both in the United States and in the Netherlands, |
| 1:22.0 | where he's actually from. |
| 1:23.9 | And the conversation that you're going to hear today with me and Jackie and Lawrence was recorded at our Reclaim Conference last year. |
| 1:31.6 | Both Lawrence and Jackie have been very open in their ministry sharing about the temptations that they've experienced with same-sex attraction as well as the ministry that they've done with other people. |
| 1:42.6 | So that's going to be fleshed out in our |
| 1:44.6 | conversation today. But before we head there, I want to ask you, has authentic intimacy or |
| 1:50.2 | job with Julie been a blessing to you in your own journey with Jesus? Has it been something |
| 1:55.5 | that has helped you find healing or freedom? If the answer is yes, would you consider partnering with us as a monthly donor? |
| 2:03.9 | This ministry and podcast is listener supported, and so in the month of July, we are looking |
| 2:09.1 | for 200 individuals who will step up and become a monthly donor. Just even giving a gift of $10 a |
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