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ποΈ 7 November 2025
β±οΈ 25 minutes
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In this mini-sode, Dr. Jordan Feigenbaum answers core questions on performance and health. The discussion centers on replacing arbitrary body fat percentages with clinical, evidence-based metrics for determining when a lifter should start a fat loss phase, emphasizing BMI and waist circumference.
Dr. Feigenbaum also provides critical safety information on heavy barbell training for older men, addresses the mythology of testosterone and its role in strength gains, outlines a strategy for losing weight without losing strength through modest deficits and high protein, and critiques the common use cases for stretching and the risks of the popular carnivore diet.
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Dr. Feigenbaum critiques the common practice of using arbitrary body fat percentage thresholds (e.g., 25% for men) to recommend a fat loss phase, citing the lack of robust evidence correlating these numbers to disease risk and the poor accuracy of most measurement methods for tracking individual change.
Instead, the decision to recommend a cut for the average recreational lifter should rely on three objective, clinical criteria:
The goal of losing weight without losing strength (e.g., 105 kg to 97 kg) is achievable through careful moderation of training and diet:
The concern that heavy barbell training for men in their late 40s or 50s could cause heart problems (e.g., PACs or other abnormalities) is directly refuted by evidence.
The idea that high testosterone levels within the normal range are the primary ceiling for muscle and strength gains is a myth.
When the carnivore diet is typically followed, it is not consistent with a health-promoting dietary pattern:
Despite common belief, stretching and mobility work do not decrease injury risk or reduce soreness. Their application should be limited:
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| 0:49.0 | John Rhodes, caller, what's your question? For the average recreational lifter, at what body fat percentage would you recommend they start a cut? This is actually a really interesting question. |
| 0:55.9 | So this might, we might take a tangent here, as I am prone to do. |
| 1:01.0 | But, you know, one of the metrics, the measurements that we use to screen for obesity is body mass index, BMI, right? And it gets all sorts of hate all over |
| 1:13.3 | the internet. People are BMI is BS, BMI's this, that, and the other, none of it's positive. Nobody is like |
| 1:17.9 | taking up the cause for BMI. And I think that's unfair for a few reasons. One, it assumes that there's |
| 1:24.9 | something better out there that we could be using instead and it also |
| 1:29.4 | assumes that BMI is doing a bad job at what it's intended to do and in this case BMI is designed to be |
| 1:40.0 | a screening tool for identifying those who are carrying too much body fat. And the cutoff that we use |
| 1:46.0 | is 30. So, you know, generally when people are complaining about BMI, they're like, I have a BMI that says |
| 1:51.9 | I'm overweight. And I'm like, well, I don't really care about that. 30 is the number I'm working |
| 1:56.7 | with to identify if somebody's carrying too much body fat. Below that, maybe at risk, but 30's the |
| 2:02.7 | line in the sand that we draw. Now, the real problem with BMI is that it does not catch enough |
| 2:09.8 | people. A good screening test should catch everybody with the thing you're screening for |
| 2:14.4 | and have some false positives. |
| 2:17.5 | That would be a very sensitive test. |
| 2:19.7 | And then you would use an additional testing to rule out people who are falsely identified. |
| 2:24.4 | Now the problem with BMI is not that it identifies too many people. |
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