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Episode #374: Mental Strategies: Neuroscience, Visualization, and Developing Resilience with Anne-Sophie Fluri

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Barbell Medicine

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4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2025

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

 Mental Strategies: Neuroscience, Visualization, and Developing Resilience

Episode Summary: Training Your Brain for Performance and Health

Dr. Jordan Feigenbaum welcomes Anne-Sophie Fluri, a neuroscientist with a background in experimental neuroscience and Parkinson's disease research, who now runs Brain Wave, focusing on mental fitness and performance workshops.

This episode leverages Anne-Sophie's expertise to discuss powerful mental strategies applicable to life, stress management, and athletic performance. The conversation provides an evidence-based breakdown of meditation (what it is and what it isn't), the neurological mechanisms behind visualization (process vs. outcome imagery), and how these practices contribute to mental resilience and improved self-efficacy—a core component of the Barbell Medicine definition of health.

⏱️ Episode Timestamps

  • [00:00] Introduction, Guest Background, and Barbell Medicine Plus Offer
  • [00:41] What is Anne-Sophie currently focusing on at Brain Wave
  • [04:41] Meditation: What it is (and isn't) & Training Attentional Focus
  • [08:31] Why people start meditating (Sleep issues, anxiety, stress relief)
  • [12:28] Legitimate Health Benefits of Meditation (Focus, stress, health behaviors)
  • [19:35] Meditation in Sport and Performance Enhancement
  • [23:14] How to Start Meditating Today (Apps, YouTube, and the 5-minute approach)
  • [33:30] II. Visualization: Mental Imagery and Performance Rehearsal
  • [35:04] Visualization in Sport (F1, Michael Phelps, and mentally rehearsing failure)
  • [37:02] Process vs. Outcome Visualization & Multi-sensory Engagement
  • [43:03] How to Start Visualization Practices (Aphantasia caveat)
  • [46:47] The Power of Immediacy and Mind-Muscle Connection
  • [56:48] III. Mental Resilience: Self-Efficacy and the Six Components


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 I. Meditation: Training Focus and Battling Distraction

Dr. Feigenbaum and Anne-Sophie begin by clarifying that meditation is not about emptying the mind or achieving spiritual transcendence. It is a simple mental practice used to train attention and awareness by focusing on an anchor (breath, sound, sensation). When the mind inevitably wanders, the practice is to bring focus back to the anchor.

The True Benefits of Training Attention

While many people turn to meditation for sleep issues and stress relief, the strongest evidence points to its benefit as a tool to train focused attention.

  • Focus is a Skill: Anybody can be told to "focus" on their training or work, but meditation provides the concrete skill development needed to counter distraction. Focusing on a mundane anchor like breathing forces the brain (which seeks productive activity) to practice recentering.
  • Positive Externalities: Meditation’s primary value may be its "knock-on effects." By helping manage or reduce stress, it creates the self-awareness necessary to participate in other health-promoting behaviors (like eating mindfully, exercising, or making healthier decisions).
  • Sports Application: Athletes, from powerlifters to soccer players, can use this training to focus on the task at hand and minimize distraction from external noise (crowds) or internal noise (self-doubt, fear of failure).


 II. Visualization: Mental Rehearsal for Performance

Visualization, or mental imagery, is a form of meditation used to create mental images of desired outcomes or processes. Research suggests this practice can have a direct carry-over to performance by activating overlapping areas in the brain as if the action were happening in real life.


Process, Outcome, and Safety

  • Process Visualization: This is ideal for technical tasks (like a squat or a race car lap). The athlete visualizes the step-by-step execution of the task (e.g., foot placement, bar path, gear changes), creating a "brain memory" that shortens the decision-making process during competition.
  • Outcome Visualization: Visualizing the moment of success (winning the competition, achieving a PR) can flood the brain with motivating chemicals and endorphins, bridging the gap between present reality and future possibility. However, caution is advised: for some, feeling the outcome too intensely can lead to lower motivation because the brain feels satisfied without doing the work.
  • Mind-Muscle Connection: Visualization during a lift may be the mechanism behind the highly sought-after "mind-muscle connection." By actively diverting focused attention toward the specific muscle groups being activated, athletes may recruit a greater amount of muscle tissue, improving activation and potentially long-term gains.


 III. Mental Resilience and the Definition of Health

Anne-Sophie defines mental resilience mechanistically: the ability to return to an original form after force or pressure is applied. This aligns closely with the Barbell Medicine definition of health (from Huber, 2011) as the ability to adapt and self-manage in the face of social, physical, and emotional challenges.

Self-Efficacy and Control

Mental resilience is directly linked to self-efficacy (confidence in one's ability to exert control over one's life). Those with high self-efficacy feel in control, have good insight into their circumstances, and feel they have the resources to change the outcome.

The key components of mental resilience include:

  1. Health: Physical health, sleep, and nutrition.
  2. Vision: Having a clear goal and direction for the future.
  3. Tenacity: The ability to keep going after setbacks.
  4. Composure: Self-regulation and staying level-headed under stress.
  5. Collaboration: Social support and community.


The Path to Resilience

To develop mental resilience, Anne-Sophie recommends developing self-awareness and reflection through regular practice:


  • Practice Self-Awareness: Meditation improves the connectivity between the prefrontal cortex (executive function) and the amygdala (emotional center), allowing you to approach problems with a more level head and less emotional reactivity.

  • Start Mono-tasking: Stop multitasking (which is actually just costly task switching) and start mono-tasking. Turn mundane activities (cooking, cleaning) into opportunities for mindfulness—focusing on one task and actively paying attention to the senses involved. This is the best nootropic for memory and cognition.

  • Consistency: Structural changes in the brain (neuroplasticity) and lasting behavioral changes are seen after at least eight weeks of consistent practice (20–40 minutes daily).


Connect With Anne-Sophie Fluri and Barbell Medicine


  • Guest Substack: Read Anne-Sophie’s neuroscience insights and thought pieces at Rewire Me with Anne-Sophie (rewireme.substack.com).

  • Guest Instagram: Follow Anne-Sophie for "not so serious content" and wellness trend critiques: @coochiebygucci (instagram.com/coochiebygucci).

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the Barbell Medicine podcast where we bring modern medicine to strength conditioning and strength conditioning to modern medicine.

0:05.9

I'm your host, Dr. Jordan Feigenbaum.

0:07.6

And today we have a very special guest, Anne Sophie Flurry.

0:12.1

Now, Anne Sophie is a neuroscientist who's worked in both industry and academia over the last 12 years.

0:17.6

She has a master's of research in experimental neuroscience and has published papers relating to

0:21.8

the vestibular system. That's the sensory system in your inner ear, plays a crucial role in

0:26.5

balance and spatial awareness, as well as in Parkinson's disease. More recently, she started the company

0:31.1

Brainwave, where she runs mental fitness and performance workshops for companies. And in this podcast,

0:36.3

we're going to leverage her expertise and talk about some mental strategies to improve your life and your workouts. Specifically, we're going to talk about meditation, visualization, and how to develop mental resilience. And Sophie, welcome to the show. Hi. Thank you so much for having me. Did I miss anything about your background? I like to lay out the CV, you know, the pertinent.

0:55.0

Yeah, no, you actually, you actually added some things that I'd forgotten about.

0:59.0

Oh, yeah.

1:00.0

The papers I published, which was years ago when I was doing my master's, and in the early stages

1:07.0

of my PhD, which I just continued, I totally forgot about those. We did some really strange

1:12.0

experiments. They're putting water into your ear. I saw. I read that. Yeah. I read that. Like my friend

1:18.3

mentioned it the other day, he was like, I was reading your paper and you put water into the

1:23.1

ear to make people feel dizzy. And I'm like, did I? That seems like a dick, a long time ago.

1:29.3

No, your master's research looked far more interesting than mine.

1:33.8

Mine was on the anatomical presence of a specific muscle, this vastest medialis obelicus.

1:41.0

It's supposed to be this muscle at the distal end of your vastest medialis, part of your quadriceps.

1:46.0

Anyway, have you heard of the AAA? Most people think that's an insurance company.

1:50.4

Yes. But it's actually an anatomical society in America. And I'm a proud card carrying member of that group, which I think if people were like, is he a nerd or nah? And I am. I'm a nerd trapped in this Chad body. And I don't know what to do about it. So I feel like similar. I feel like I'm a similar kind of person. Like I didn't get on with anyone from my, from my study. Like I think that's why I quit my PhD. It's like I couldn't relate to anyone. Yeah. I don't belong here yeah no but then a lot of my friends were like creatives but then i also couldn't relate

2:20.6

to like i mean, I'm like, I am a creative person, but then I didn't fit into those industries at all either. I'm like, I just. Yeah, you're too, too diverse for the system. Nice. Well, we're super, I'm super excited to have you. Obviously, we've

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