Putting Jesus at the Center of Your Ward | An Interview with David Butler
Leading Saints Podcast
Leading Saints
4.8 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 11 July 2020
⏱️ 80 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
This is a rebroadcast. The episode originally ran in July 2020.
David Butler is a religious educator at Utah Valley University. He also cohosts the popular YouTube scripture study channel Don’t Miss This and is the author of many religious books, including Almighty: How the Most Powerful Being in the Universe Is Also Your Loving Father, Redeemer: Who He Is and Who He Will Always Be, and Spirit: The Gift that Connects You to Heaven. David has previously served as a bishop. He and his wife Jenny are the parents of six children.


Links
Don’t Miss This
Instagram: @mrdavebutler
Instagram: @dontmissthisstudy
Books by David Butler
Y Religion podcast
Seekers Wanted | An Interview with Anthony Sweat
Church Doctrine, Policy, & Leadership | An Interview with Prof. Anthony Sweat
Read the transcript of this podcast
Highlights
Dave shares his journey into teaching, which began unexpectedly during his college years when he took a class on teaching the gospel. Despite initially vowing never to become a teacher, he found himself drawn to the profession, particularly in the context of teaching youth and sharing the gospel. Dave reflects on his experiences as a bishop, discussing how he approached leadership with a focus on people rather than programs. He emphasizes the importance of creating a meaningful sacrament meeting experience that fosters a deeper connection with God, rather than adhering strictly to traditional formats.
Throughout the episode, Dave challenges the conventional norms of church leadership and encourages listeners to question established practices. He advocates for a people-centered approach, urging leaders to consider the needs of their congregations and to innovate rather than simply follow the unwritten rules. The discussion also touches on the significance of the Come Follow Me program, with Dave suggesting that it should be viewed as a resource rather than a rigid program. He encourages families to focus on their unique needs and to create their own meaningful experiences in scripture study, ultimately aiming to foster a deeper love for God and each other.
04:04 – Dave’s Journey into Teaching
06:12 – Unexpected Path to Teaching
10:03 – Balancing Teaching and Leadership
12:26 – Embracing Individuality in Leadership
13:04 – Questioning the Status Quo
20:20 – Focusing on People Over Programs
24:02 – Creating a Meaningful Sacrament Meeting
28:07 – Innovative Approaches to Sacrament Meeting
32:50 – Collaborating with Stake Leadership
36:17 – The Importance of Individual Worship
40:50 – Grace in the Come Follow Me Program
42:43 – Viewing Come Follow Me as a Resource
45:00 – Interview with Anthony Sweat
The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org.
Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill and many more in over 800 episodes.
Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | I remember being a young bishop and having a member of my ward tell me they don't believe as they used to and they have begun to question their faith. |
| 0:10.0 | The hardest part of these scenarios was that it felt like they were looking to me for answers, |
| 0:16.0 | when in reality they were coming to me looking for support and hope. |
| 0:21.0 | These leadership scenarios can quickly remind you how unprepared you might be to minister |
| 0:27.2 | to individuals or loved ones in your life who have begun to question their faith. |
| 0:32.0 | This is why leading Saints created the |
| 0:34.0 | questioning Saints library where we interviewed over 20 experts with the intent to |
| 0:39.0 | better understand how we can help individuals who are starting to question their faith. |
| 0:45.0 | For all the details on how you can access the questioning Saints library, text the word lead to 4747, |
| 0:52.0 | or visit leading Saints.org |
| 0:55.0 | slash questioning. |
| 0:56.5 | Again text the word L.E.A.D. |
| 0:59.0 | to 4747.47 or visit Leading Saints |
| 1:02.8 | Leading Saints.org |
| 1:03.8 | slash questioning. |
| 1:05.0 | Hi ya folks, this is Kurt Franklin with the Leading Saints podcast. |
| 1:11.4 | I welcome you back to another episode and if you're |
| 1:13.9 | brand new we like to have you stand up and introduce yourself but let me first |
| 1:17.4 | introduce you to this podcast. Leading Saints is a nonprofit 501c3 organization where our mission is to help |
| 1:25.2 | Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. And a big way that we do that is through |
| 1:29.6 | this podcast where we interview fantastic interesting people and leadership principles and apply them in the world of |
| 1:36.9 | Latter-day Saint leadership and it's so fun. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Leading Saints, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Leading Saints and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.

