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Ukrainecast

Putin and Xi talk partnership and peace proposals

Ukrainecast

BBC

News Commentary, News

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Russia claims a Chinese plan for peace could be the basis for an end to hostilities. China expert, Isabel Hilton, and Arkady Ostrovsky, The Economist’s Russia editor, discuss China’s emerging role in the war, and what this might mean for Ukraine and the West.

As President Putin visits occupied Mariupol, we talk to Odesa MP Oleksiy Goncharenko about how he felt seeing the Russian leader on Ukrainian soil.

And Arkady talks through his podcast, Next Year in Moscow.

Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Vitaliy Shevchenko. The producers were Arsenii Sokolov, Clare Williamson, Natasha Fernandes and Luke Radcliff. The technical producer was Mike Regaard. The series producer is Fiona Leach. The assistant editor is Alison Gee and the editor is Sam Bonham. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480

Music credit: Darren Ng for the original music for Next Year in Moscow podcast.

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:04.4

Hello, it's 391 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

0:10.4

And President Putin visited a Russian occupied city in the south of Ukraine at the weekend

0:16.1

when he turned up in Mariupol, which was taken over by Russian forces back in May last year.

0:24.7

Arriving by helicopter, it was then shown on Russian State TV

0:28.7

driving around the city. In the dark, so not much of the city could actually be seen.

0:39.3

The high profile visit came less than 48 hours after the International Criminal Court

0:43.8

issued a warrant for the Russian President's arrest on charges of the mass abduction of children.

0:50.2

But obviously, that didn't stop him entering Ukraine.

0:53.9

Mr. Putin appeared relaxed as he met presumably well-bettered members of the public

1:04.0

and shown newly built apartment blocks.

1:07.2

I was going well for the cameras until one woman was caught shouting,

1:12.1

it's not true, it's just for show.

1:18.8

And later, some coverage on Russian State TV had cut out that woman, so got rid of the

1:24.0

unhelpful noises off, so people tuning in would have got the edited version.

1:28.5

And then he was off back to Moscow in time for the arrival of China's President Xi.

1:36.4

This is Ukraine, Kass.

1:38.1

Ukraine, Kass, from BBC News.

1:41.1

Ukraine is an epicenter of unbearable heart-haired and pain.

1:45.7

millions of people are without heating, without water.

1:48.8

Putin is the aggressor, he will be ready to use nuclear weapons.

1:54.5

They killed him and fled.

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