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Ukrainecast

Arrest warrant issued for Putin

Ukrainecast

BBC

News Commentary, News

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2023

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

The International Criminal Court has issued an arrest warrant for Russian President Vladimir Putin for alleged war crimes in Ukraine We also get an update from Bakhmut, the devastated city on the front line, and we speak to a woman whose husband was killed defending it last year. Through her organisation, Maemo Zhiti, Oksana now helps support other bereaved women across Ukraine. Frank Gardner, the BBC’s security correspondent, brings Victoria and Vitaly up to date on the US drone brought down over the Black Sea and whether it could lead to direct confrontation between US and Russian forces. And, as a Polish spy network is broken up, Greg Miller of the Washington Post talks through his work uncovering the spy war between Russia and the West. Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Vitaly Shevchenko. The producers were Luke Radcliff with Arsenii Sokolov and Clare Williamson. The technical producer was Philip Bull. The series producer is Fiona Leach. The assistant editor is Alison Gee and the editor is Sam Bonham. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480.

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0:00.0

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0:04.9

Hello, it's 387 days since Russia began its invasion of Ukraine.

0:09.9

And after we recorded today's podcast, news came in that the international criminal court

0:15.4

has issued an arrest warrant for Vladimir Putin for alleged war crimes in Ukraine, including

0:21.9

forcibly deporting children from Ukraine to Russia.

0:26.4

This is the ICC's prosecutor, Karim Karm.

0:30.0

This type of crime doesn't, one doesn't need to be a lawyer, one needs to be human being,

0:34.7

to know how egregious it is, if a child anywhere in the world is in a familiar environment

0:39.4

and they're taken by men in uniforms or in barra-clavis or they're shipped in trains or in

0:47.7

planes to another country with another language, it is not going to be necessary pleasant

0:53.2

if it may be rather traumatic.

0:55.1

And of course, the Geneva Conventions make it mandatory to put children's welfare at

1:00.8

the centre, one can't simply deport children, particularly if they're not in danger.

1:06.0

And there were many other options.

1:08.2

Well President Putin spokesman said it was outrageous and unacceptable.

1:13.8

Russia doesn't recognise the ICC's jurisdiction and denies committing atrocities in Ukraine.

1:21.0

So what does this mean?

1:23.0

Richard Goldstone is a former UN prosecutor.

1:25.8

It's very important for leaders who are suspected of committing serious war crimes to be held

1:31.1

accountable.

1:32.1

But the significance for President Putin is obviously the fact that there are 123 member states

1:39.3

who have ratified the Rome Statute and that means that each of those states is legally

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