Put Up Or Shut Down
The TPM Show with Josh and Kate
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🗓️ 10 September 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Kate and Josh discuss the great shutdown debate and the Roberts Court's signaling on pocket rescissions.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, dear listeners, this is Kate Riga. I'm here to make a quick pitch that you consider becoming a |
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| 0:28.7 | Without our members, there is no podcast, not to mention that I'm out of a job. Thank you so much |
| 0:34.3 | for listening and supporting us. We couldn't do it without you. Hi, this is Josh Marshall, and this is the Josh Marshall podcast featuring Kate Riga. |
| 1:04.1 | We're going to talk mostly today about this brewing budget showdown. It kind of gets lost in a way that it's a budget showdown. |
| 1:12.3 | Kind of gets lost in a way that it's a budget showdown. |
| 1:15.1 | Technically, this is a, you know, this shutdown question that is timed for the end of the month, |
| 1:23.9 | the end of September is actually a continuing resolution because I don actually a continuing resolution. Because I don't even, |
| 1:30.8 | you know, I don't, I kind of understand it once I think about it. But I'm, I'm, I'm, |
| 1:37.9 | it's a little unclear to me why we're even doing it. Since you have unified government, |
| 1:41.7 | so why aren't we on regular budgeting? You know, why are we still doing |
| 1:45.5 | continuing resolutions? But we are doing continuing resolutions. And because of these rules in the |
| 1:52.8 | Senate that we know about, you want to do continuing resolution as opposed to a budget, which gets you, |
| 1:58.9 | you know, reconciliation rules and all that kind of stuff, |
| 2:02.1 | that you could just have majority rule in the Senate, which in fact you should have anyway, |
| 2:06.9 | that because of the rules for a continuing resolution, they need 60 votes, which means that they |
| 2:15.7 | need seven Democrats, which gives Democrats one of these, you know, |
| 2:21.1 | once a season, twice a year, something like that, situations when they actually have some power |
| 2:27.3 | where Republicans, if they want to keep the government open, if they want to keep funding the |
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