Give a little bit of a background for those I'm familiar with you.

I started my career as a physician.

My passion was always to help patients reach a cure and I wanted to be

a cardiologist. So I lost an uncle at age 42, watched my grandma suffering from diabetes and taking pills for every

other, you know, blood pressure, blood sugar, whatever, five, six pills that half of the people

that probably after age 40 and 50 and 60 and so after

age 70 definitely they're taken yeah and I was fascinated with how come we can not

cure these conditions right so went through med school and I felt I'm just being

trained to give four, five, six pills for people that they have to take for the

rest of their lives without any expiry date.

I used to tease my attending saying, hey, if this is working, why it doesn't have an expiry date,

it has to be refilled every month.

Right, right.

And so I kind of rebelled a little bit against the system and I went, I did my studies in health policies

and public health.

And at Harvard Hopkins, I wanted to be like the best, you know, health policy and expert reform

the system, make it more preventative, and then support people to stay healthier longer, longer,

longer and sicker, which is what we're doing today.

Actually, today it's even worse, we're living shorter.

We thought we're living longer sicker.

We just lost half a year on our lifespan in the US last year. So we're living a little bit shorter and

sicker. Which is against everything health care should stand for and I felt I was practicing sick care not health care.

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