Hello and welcome to the G0 World podcast. This is where you'll find extended versions of my

interviews on public television. I'm Ian Bremmer and today, what will it take to get a ceasefire

in Ukraine? It's a question that we have asked on this podcast, but it's always been

hypothetical, not anymore. President Trump has made it clear he wants

to ceasefire badly, and he will do what it takes, he says, to get one. He didn't end the war in 24

hours, as promised on the campaign trail, but his administration has been directly engaging

with Russia diplomatically. And that's not a bad thing.

Wars end at the negotiating table, not the battlefield.

The problem is that the Kremlin has so far shown no interest in compromise.

Instead, it's been slow-walking negotiations,

increasing demands for concessions,

and testing the patience of the friendliest White House that they have faced in years.

So what will it take for Trump to start piling pressure on Putin?

And even if Moscow does make a deal, can Kiev trust them to honoring?

To help make sense of the stakes in what happens next, I'm joined by former Ukrainian foreign minister,

Dmitro Kuleba. Kulaba spent years helping secure foreign military aid and keeping Western allies

committed to Ukraine's survival as his country was being invaded until resigning last

September amid a cabinet shuffle. We talk about Putin's real goals during negotiations,

President Trump's strategy to get a deal done quickly,

and what happens next for a country still fighting for its existence?

Let's get to it.

Thank you. It's been three plus years of fighting. Should we have moved more quickly towards a ceasefire negotiation?

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