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#PULSAR: AT THE CORE. BOB ZIMMERMAN BEHINDTHEBLACK.COM

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🗓️ 8 May 2025

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#PULSAR: AT THE CORE. BOB ZIMMERMAN BEHINDTHEBLACK.COM
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0:00.0

This is CBS, I'm The World.

0:05.0

I'm John Batch with Bob Zimmerman, Behind the Black.

0:08.0

Space Force has been passing around contracts to what end, Bob?

0:12.0

Yeah, there's a whole bunch of different contracts have been awarded,

0:15.0

and they're all going to commercial companies to do things for the military.

0:19.0

And I want to focus on two specific contracts in particular.

0:21.9

One is by Ersum, given to Ersum Major, for hypersonic test flights using its Draper rocket engine,

0:28.1

and a second contract to a rocket startup called Radion, which is building a commercial reentry

0:33.4

capsule. It's got a contract to do hypersonic testing upon reentry of that capsule.

0:38.1

Those two startups, they haven't actually flown anything yet.

0:41.2

But this is part of the military's increasing hypersonic research program depending on private

0:47.7

enterprise.

0:48.7

Not only these two companies, but the military has gotten Rocket Lab, Varda, and Strata launch,

0:53.8

winning contracts,

0:55.2

and actually doing a whole variety of hypersonic test flights for the military.

1:00.3

And I should point out that the hypersonic test program by the military for literally decades

1:04.6

was slow, not accomplishing much.

1:08.0

If it could fly a test flight once a year, it was doing well. And that was because

1:12.6

the military at the time was building and develop everything in itself. They did it badly.

1:16.5

They switched now to asking the private sector to provide them the services, and they're getting

1:20.7

many different companies, providing many different launch capabilities, and they're getting tests

1:25.0

flown regularly now. And so that's just indicating once again how private enterprise is good, John.

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