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🗓️ 12 May 2025
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Mike Farris, founder of Alliance Defending Freedom and Homeschool Legal Defense Association, is here today to share his expertise and on the current issue of publicly funded religious charter schools which is being argued in SCOTUS right now.Prime Sponsor: No matter where you live, visit the Functional Medical Institute online today to connect with Drs Mark and Michele Sherwood. Go to homeschoolhealth.com to get connected and see some of my favorites items. Use coupon code HEIDI for 20% off!Lifestone | lifestone.com/illuminateGive Send Go | givesendgo.comBrave Books | heidibrave.com
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0:00.0 | The Supreme Court's conservative majority is poised to permit the creation of the nation's first |
0:04.8 | religious charter school funded directly with taxpayer dollars, potentially overturning a state |
0:09.9 | Supreme Court ruling in Oklahoma. Of course, this decision is going to have staggering |
0:14.5 | implications for education and lots of conversations happening around the separation of church and |
0:19.9 | state. I've asked my friend Mike Ferris to come on the show today and talk with me about this. |
0:24.7 | This is going to be a great conversation and it's going to be informative. |
0:27.6 | This is the Heidi St. John podcast. |
0:29.1 | I'm glad you're here. |
0:29.9 | Stick around. |
0:30.5 | I think you're going to be encouraged. |
0:44.4 | Well, thank you guys for tuning in. I am getting lots and lots and lots of questions and letters from you with regard to this ruling. And so I did the very best thing I knew how to do, |
0:50.4 | which was to call my friend Mike Ferris. You guys are familiar with him. He's joining me back |
0:54.4 | here again today. My friend, thanks for coming on. I appreciate it. Well, it's great to be with you, |
0:59.0 | Heidi. And yeah, I can talk about this case. I wrote a Namakus brief for the Supreme Court on it. |
1:04.4 | So sure. I know something about it. Yeah. Yeah, I love this because I texted Mike and I was like, hey, I sent him, you know, an ABC headline. And I said, do you have any thoughts on this? And he said, yeah, I wrote a brief for it. And I was like, of course you did. Of course you wrote a brief for it. This is a divisive issue, Mike. And I would say that the letters that are coming into me are probably split 50, 50 people for it, people against it, but emotions are running |
1:28.3 | high. And so I kind of like to start there. Talk to me a little bit about why this is such an |
1:33.8 | emotional issue. Well, people care about religion. They care about freedom and they care about the |
1:41.5 | Constitution. And this case lies at the |
1:44.5 | intersection of all those principles and there's also a lack of clarity about |
1:51.5 | the constitutional rules that are involved here that in large part has been |
1:58.1 | due to the Supreme Court itself over the last 75 years or so. |
2:02.6 | And so the, it's easy to get some misunderstandings and it's also easy to misunderstand the facts a little bit about how these, |
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