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Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

PTSD, Post-Traumatic Growth, and Prioritizing Mental Health with Jason Kander

Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

Being Well

Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.82.7K Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2022

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

In 2016 Jason Kander was a rising star in the Democratic Party. After narrowly losing the race to become one of Missouri’s Senators, he began laying the groundwork for a Presidential run. Jason unexpectedly pivoted to declaring his candidacy for the 2019 Kansas City mayoral election, and quickly became the clear favorite. Three months into that campaign he ended his candidacy and stepped back from public life after revealing that he had suffered from PTSD and depression after serving as an intelligence officer in Afghanistan in 2006 and 2007 On today’s episode of Being Well, Jason joins Forrest to talk about his personal journey recovering from PTSD, the impact of his time serving in Afghanistan, imposter syndrome and shame, having a mental health challenge in public, and what we can do to better support veterans.  About our Guest: Jason is a former Missouri Secretary of State and member of the Missouri state legislature. He’s current the President of National Expansion at Veterans Community Project, a non-profit organization dedicated to fighting veteran suicide and homelessness. He’s also the host of Majority 54, a popular political podcast, and the author of Invisible Storm: A Soldier’s Memoir of Politics and PTSD.  If you're in crisis, are thinking about suicide, or are concerned about a loved one, please call 1-800-273-8255. The Lifeline network is available 24/7 across the United States. Watch the Episode: Prefer watching video? You can watch this episode on YouTube. Key Topics: 0:00: Introduction 1:45: Jason’s experience coming to accept having PTSD 3:45: Symptoms 5:50: How the military (mostly doesn't) address PTSD 8:00: Chronic stress, public perception, feelings of failure, and uncertainty of recovery 13:40: Jason’s Veterans Affairs (VA) experience 15:40: Veteran's Community Project and other resources for veterans 20:00: Therapeutic practices Jason did 27:50: Physical sensations associated with PTSD 31:40: Imposter syndrome related to being a combat veteran 33:05: Working through shame and comparison 36:15: How Jason’s view of therapy progressed through the process 42:30: What Jason would do differently for his mental health if he ran for office again 47:05: More on Veterans Community Project and their tiny house program 51:50: Recap   Support the Podcast: We're now on Patreon! If you'd like to support the podcast, follow this link. Sponsors: Access over 30 at-home lab tests from Everlywell, and head to everlywell.com/beingwell for twenty percent off your next test. Join over a million people using BetterHelp, the world’s largest online counseling platform. Visit betterhelp.com/beingwell for 10% off your first month! Want to sleep better? Try the Calm app! Visit calm.com/beingwell for 40% off a premium subscription. MDbio is a plant-based medicine company with natural products that address sleep, anxiety, pain, and immunity. Get your FREE 10-count sample pack by going to mdbiowellness.com and entering the promo code BEINGWELL at checkout! Connect with the show: Subscribe on iTunes Follow Forrest on YouTube Follow us on Instagram Follow Forrest on Instagram Follow Rick on Facebook Follow Forrest on Facebook Visit Forrest's website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, welcome to Being Well, I'm Forrest Tansen.

0:10.5

If you're new to the show, thanks for joining us today and if you've listened before,

0:13.9

welcome back.

0:14.9

Today, I'm joined by a very special guest, a former army captain, almost presidential

0:19.5

candidate, best-selling author and fellow fan of the West Wing, Jason Cantor.

0:25.0

Jason served as an intelligence officer in Afghanistan in 2006 and 2007 and was elected

0:30.6

to the Missouri State Legislature in 2008 and as a Missouri Secretary of State in 2012.

0:36.4

In 2016, he was the Democratic nominee for Senate in Missouri and in President Barack

0:42.1

Obama's final Oval Office interview, he was asked who gave him help for the future of

0:46.8

the country and Jason was the first person he named.

0:50.1

He began laying the groundwork for presidential run in 2018 and then he pivoted to declaring

0:54.5

his candidacy for the 2019 Kansas City mayoral election, which took a lot of people

1:00.1

by surprise.

1:01.4

Then three months into that campaign and as the clear favorite in the race, he ended

1:05.5

his candidacy and stepped back from public life after revealing that he had suffered

1:09.8

from PTSD and depression since coming home from Afghanistan.

1:15.3

Today, Jason's the President of National Expansion at Veterans Community Project, a nonprofit

1:20.0

organization dedicated to fighting veteran suicide and homelessness.

1:23.9

He's also the host of Majority 54, a popular political podcast and he's the author of Outside

1:29.4

the Wire, 10 Lessons I've Learned in Everyday Courage and his most recent book Invisible

1:34.4

Storm, A Soldier's Memoir of Politics and PTSD.

1:38.9

So Jason, thanks for doing this, how are you doing today?

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